Gatti hanged self from staircase: Police

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  • catalinul
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    #61
    Originally posted by raycorey

    What pictures??? where can i see those pictures???
    You can't see the blood on it but there was one where you could.Can't seem to find it now.Will look it up.
    Here is the initial one:

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    • FLYBOY
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      #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Why would he hand himself? He could take all the best boxers could throw at him. What did life throw at him that he couldnt deal with?
      exactly, Gatti has taken more punishment than anyone, he never quit. why would he quit life. impossible. just look at the smile on Amanda's face. a widow is supposed to be crying.

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        #63
        But i guess some good news...

        Canadian government wants more information into his murder...


        Ottawa asks Brazil for details on Gatti's death
        Brazilian police provide details on Canadian boxer Arturo Gatti's death
        Jul 31, 2009 04:17 PM
        THE CANADIAN PRESS

        The Canadian government has formally asked Brazilian authorities for "more information" about the death of former world champion boxer Arturo Gatti.

        Brazilian police have declared the July 11 death a suicide while a judge has ordered the release of Gatti's 23-year-old Brazilian wife, Amanda Rodrigues, who had been held since July 12.

        "This case has been resolved," said Milena Saraiva, a spokeswoman for police in the northeastern city of Recife. "While the evidence at the scene first led us to think Gatti was murdered, the autopsy results and a detailed crime scene analysis simply pointed to a different outcome."

        Canada wants to see for itself.

        "The government of Canada is seeking more information on the investigation into the death of its citizen, and on the findings of the investigation," Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said in a statement Friday.

        A spokesman for Cannon declined further comment when contacted by The Canadian Press.

        Gatti, a Montreal native who held two world titles in his 16-year pro career, retired in 2007 with a record of 40-9.

        Gatti's family and friends expressed disbelief that the boxer could have killed himself. His brother Joseph said the family may have his body exhumed from a grave in Montreal and conduct their own autopsy.

        Gatti's manager, Pat Lynch, said during a Thursday night memorial service for Gatti in northern New Jersey that he was shocked when he heard about the suicide ruling.

        "I'm not going to rest," he said. "We've got a lot of investigation ahead of us."

        On Friday, Brazilian police released more details about the incident, saying Gatti hanged himself with a bag strap that he tied around a wooden staircase column more than two metres off the ground, looping it around his neck and then kicking the stool from underneath him.

        Saraiva says police first thought Gatti was strangled by his wife – after the pair had a violent, drunken fight in public hours before – because his body was found on the floor.

        But an autopsy report indicated Gatti was suspended off the ground for some three hours early July 11. A crime scene analysis found markings on the staircase column.

        Gatti was found several hours later by his wife.

        On Thursday, a judge ordered the release of Rodrigues in Recife. She and Gatti arrived at the resort town of Porto de Galinhas with their 10-month-old son a few days earlier. They had rented a two-level apartment.

        Rodrigues said she was sleeping with the pair's son in an upstairs bedroom. She told police she went downstairs about 6 a.m. to get milk for the boy, saw Gatti's body on the floor but assumed he was drunk and asleep. It was not until she went back downstairs at 9 a.m. that she discovered Gatti was dead and called police.

        Saraiva said no suicide note was found.

        "The first investigators to arrive at the scene only saw his body on the floor and the bloodied strap near his body," Saraiva said. "They assumed his wife strangled him."

        Saraiva also provided details gathered from 17 witnesses police interviewed about the tumultuous evening Gatti and Rodrigues had the night before his death.

        The investigation revealed that the pair got into a loud fight on a street near the beach in the resort town late July 10. Saraiva said Gatti had drank about seven cans of beer, along with two bottles of wine during a dinner and later at a bar.

        Witnesses told police Gatti at one point picked up Rodrigues, who weighs about 100 pounds, by her chin with his right hand and tossed her to the ground.

        She had visible wounds to her chin and left arm the following day when police arrived at her cell following her arrest.

        Saraiva said that a security guard for a local hotel intervened when the couple's fight became violent, only to be punched in the face by Gatti. A small crowd gathered at the scene and started throwing stones at the boxer, the police spokeswoman said.

        One of the stones hit Gatti in the back of the head, causing a wound that police originally said was caused by a small steak knife found near his body in the apartment. Saraiva said the scene in the centre of town eventually broke up, and that Gatti and Rodrigues returned to their apartment in separate taxis.

        In a telephone interview with The Associated Press upon her release from prison Thursday, Rodrigues said Gatti may have killed himself because he feared she would leave him after their fight, one of many during a rocky two-year marriage.

        "I believe that when we got home and he saw that he hurt me, he thought I would leave him, that I would tell him to just let me go, that I would separate from him," she said. "He did that in a moment of weakness. He was drunk, maybe he didn't know what he was doing, maybe he thought I would leave him the next day."

        According to family and friends, the couple's marriage was fraught with problems.

        Records at the Court of Quebec's criminal and penal division show that Gatti was charged on April 16 for violating a restraining order that had been filed against him. They didn't indicate who filed the restraining order, but Gatti's mother, Ida, said Rodrigues had taken one out against him.

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        • Bhopreign
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          #64
          Why did they give frivolous info then from the start, they jumped to conclusions very early, thats not professional.
          Last edited by Bhopreign; 07-31-2009, 05:39 PM.

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            #65
            The story changes yet again...

            More bull****.

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              #66
              Originally posted by catalinul
              You can't see the blood on it but there was one where you could.Can't seem to find it now.Will look it up.
              Here is the initial one:

              Is it possible that he may have tried to cut himself down but cut himself instead?
              Stabbing someone in the head with a thin knife isn't exactly the best way to kill someone considering you'd have to get through the skull.

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              • catalinul
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                #67
                Originally posted by RelliK
                Is it possible that he may have tried to cut himself down but cut himself instead?
                Stabbing someone in the head with a thin knife isn't exactly the best way to kill someone considering you'd have to get through the skull.
                You think he'd pack a knife when tryinbg to hang himself just in case he'd want to stop?

                I read that she stabbed him tosee if he is awake and with no response she strangled him.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by catalinul
                  You think he'd pack a knife when tryinbg to hang himself just in case he'd want to stop?

                  I read that she stabbed him to see if he is awake and with no response she strangled him.
                  "Stabbed him to see if he was awake."
                  In the back of the head no less.
                  Why would that make any sense?

                  We all need to just wait for more facts to come out.
                  Forensics can tell the difference between hung and strangled most of the time.

                  The knife may have been near by.
                  Was the strap cut from the purse?

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                  • Rudyo
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                    #69
                    People need to stop jumping to conclusions on both sides, everyone is siding with Gatti when the full facts are not out. What has been said recently is heresay and what was said before at this point needs to be considered heresay. You can't say for 100% that the wife did it or that Gatti killed himself so people need to just chill.

                    Innocent until proven guilty, even if it's a beloved boxer.

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                    • catalinul
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by RelliK
                      "Stabbed him to see if he was awake."
                      In the back of the head no less.
                      Why would that make any sense?

                      We all need to just wait for more facts to come out.
                      Forensics can tell the difference between hung and strangled most of the time.

                      The knife may have been near by.
                      Was the strap cut from the purse?
                      It makes a lot more sense than him hanging himself then ending up in bed.

                      Hopefully the canadian investigation will show the truth.You can't deny the brazilians have changed the story in eery way,shape and form.

                      Even if the knife might have been near by he was in the air hanged,he couldn't have reached it.

                      The strap was probably ripped from the purse I guess,nothing on that.

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