Roach: "Pacquiao Doesn't Need Cotto Without The Belt"

[boxingfan76]

Agree...I think Cotto is in doubt now w/ his ability...He's the bigger champion, so it's only fair that a smaller champion wants something like the belt on the line to motivate him to fight a bigger champion at a catch weight of 145lbs. w/c has bigger difference of 5lbs(140) compared to 2lbs(147) to overcome, maybe he's afraid of Pac...

AND MAYBE PAC IS AFRAID OF GAINING TO 2 LBS, THAT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND?

[Haglerwins]

I thought what is implied by the rules is quite clear. It's up to the champ to agree to a bout within the weight class limit for the title.

Cotto can very well put up the belt at 145, but I imagine he feels he's made enough concessions. Going to 145 for a less than 40% cut of the purse, a fine for every pound over 145 AND to throw in the belt that was never agreed upon in negotiation, is a lot of taking.. but no giving.

He made his money agreeing to go down in weight. He has no obligation to satisfy any other demands from Team Pac. Cotto wants the big money so he had to forfeit 147. However, now it's team Pac that wants something and that leaves Miguel with some leverage - the weight limit can go back on the table.

For all this complaining, it's smart business and just the traditions of trade. I'd wish you Pac supporters would stop crying.

[znarfv_y2k8]

I understand, but if Pac is motivated to be the WW champion, he should allow an extra 2 pounds and fight at 147. That is the definition of WW - the best at a max weight limit of 147.

They can still fight at 145 without the belt being on the line. I agree that it doesn't have to be about the money. It doesn't have to be about a belt either. The glory will still be there if he beats Cotto at 145. That should be enough. But if Pac were to win, he shouldn't parade around as a WW champion when he did not adhere to the well established rules for the division.

The Glory of defeating a top-level bigger man should be enough motivation, not a tainted title. I don't fault him for trying, but he should look past that. Just my opinion.

Everybody knew who Pac is & everybody knew who Cotto is...Pac 140lb champion who used to fight at a lower weights, Cotto a great & very strong 147lb champion who used to fight at that weight....With Pac's present status, he doesn't need to fight Cotto for what reason...Pac has enough accomplishments, a fight w/ other big fighters need some great motivation to consider...145lb is a reasonable weight for Cotto w/ 2lbs to overcome while Pac has 5lbs difference, nothing to fear but how come his not that confident to put the title on the line...

[znarfv_y2k8]

AND MAYBE PAC IS AFRAID OF GAINING TO 2 LBS, THAT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND?

Nosense...

[boxingfan76]

Everybody knew who Pac is & everybody knew who Cotto is...Pac 140lb champion who used to fight at a lower weights, Cotto a great & very strong 147lb champion who used to fight at that weight....With Pac's present status, he doesn't need to fight Cotto for what reason...Pac has enough accomplishments, a fight w/ other big fighters need some great motivation to consider...145lb is a reasonable weight for Cotto w/ 2lbs to overcome while Pac has 5lbs difference, nothing to fear but how come his not that confident to put the title on the line...

pac the picker, wants cotto cuz cotto doesnt seem to be at his best anymore after the margarito beating,and the poor clottey showing.,just the same way pacyow isnt CONFIDENT of facing jmm3rd bout or mosley.lets not pretend here.

[jetgeomcx]

i know chris rock said you're not suppose to call double dribble on ******ed kids but im blowing the whistle on this special olympics case.

NO DUDE, 141-147 IS NOT THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT BUT THE WELTERWEIGHT RANGE.

147 IS THE LIMIT.

ANYTHING BETWEEN 141-147 IS A WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT.

145 IS BETWEEN 141-147 = A WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT.

NO RULES ARE BEING BROKEN, ONLY YOUR MENTAL COMPREHENSION IS.

NO HISTORY IS BEING MADE HERE, ONLY YOUR ******ITY ONE UPPING YOUR RECENT ******ITY.

Here are some of the prominent catchweight fights in history;

-whitaker vs cesar chavez for welter title @ 145lbs

-ray leonard vs danny lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs

-ray leonard vs tommy hearns 2 for the super middle(168-161) title under 168lbs @ 163

-oscar hoya vs bernard hopkins for the middleweight(155-160) championship @ 158lbs

-terry norris vs meldrick taylor for the juniormiddle (148-153) belt @ 150lbs

now take that cake & shove it up your ass JIMMY VULMER.



make sure you take timmy too.

you owned them again, brah!!
sorry can't give u another green k yet.......

poseurs and pretenders abound here....wizards and geniuses too.
they type and post as if their words are gospel truth....
and they can make their own boxing rules as well....what a bunch of jokes!!

PEOPLE,.... pls read well and at least try to comprehend....or should i say try to UNDERSTAND the above post of GetSumBrah

[znarfv_y2k8]

i know chris rock said you're not suppose to call double dribble on ******ed kids but im blowing the whistle on this special olympics case.

NO DUDE, 141-147 IS NOT THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT BUT THE WELTERWEIGHT RANGE.

147 IS THE LIMIT.

ANYTHING BETWEEN 141-147 IS A WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT.

145 IS BETWEEN 141-147 = A WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT.

NO RULES ARE BEING BROKEN, ONLY YOUR MENTAL COMPREHENSION IS.

NO HISTORY IS BEING MADE HERE, ONLY YOUR ******ITY ONE UPPING YOUR RECENT ******ITY.

Here are some of the prominent catchweight fights in history;

-whitaker vs cesar chavez for welter title @ 145lbs

-ray leonard vs danny lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs

-ray leonard vs tommy hearns 2 for the super middle(168-161) title under 168lbs @ 163

-oscar hoya vs bernard hopkins for the middleweight(155-160) championship @ 158lbs

-terry norris vs meldrick taylor for the juniormiddle (148-153) belt @ 150lbs

now take that cake & shove it up your ass JIMMY VULMER.



make sure you take timmy too.

Good resources, nice post...

[tyson]

Everybody knew who Pac is & everybody knew who Cotto is...Pac 140lb champion who used to fight at a lower weights, Cotto a great & very strong 147lb champion who used to fight at that weight....With Pac's present status, he doesn't need to fight Cotto for what reason...Pac has enough accomplishments, a fight w/ other big fighters need some great motivation to consider...145lb is a reasonable weight for Cotto w/ 2lbs to overcome while Pac has 5lbs difference, nothing to fear but how come his not that confident to put the title on the line...

Because of respect, honor and principle.

People with no self-respect, honor and in-built principles will not understand the situation regardless.

[boxingfan76]

Nosense...

judging from pacs opponent selection latley the only one lacking confidence is quite clear : pac

[znarfv_y2k8]

you owned them again, brah!!
sorry can't give u another green k yet.......

poseurs and pretenders abound here....wizards and geniuses too.
they type and post as if their words are gospel truth....
and they can make their own boxing rules as well....what a bunch of jokes!!

PEOPLE,.... pls read well and at least try to comprehend....or should i say try to UNDERSTAND the above post of GetSumBrah

Yes bro, i agree w/ you...Sometimes we don't need to remind or consider personality attack here but maybe it's one way to make them realized how they look ****** here...