Roach: "Pacquiao Doesn't Need Cotto Without The Belt"

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  • boxingfan76
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    #711
    Originally posted by Haglerwins
    I thought what is implied by the rules is quite clear. It's up to the champ to agree to a bout within the weight class limit for the title.

    Cotto can very well put up the belt at 145, but I imagine he feels he's made enough concessions. Going to 145 for a less than 40% cut of the purse, a fine for every pound over 145 AND to throw in the belt that was never agreed upon in negotiation, is a lot of taking.. but no giving.

    He made his money agreeing to go down in weight. He has no obligation to satisfy any other demands from Team Pac. Cotto wants the big money so he had to forfeit 147. However, now it's team Pac that wants something and that leaves Miguel with some leverage - the weight limit can go back on the table.

    For all this complaining, it's smart business and just the traditions of trade. I'd wish you Pac supporters would stop crying.
    good post but *******s have no logic to understand this.

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      #712
      Originally posted by tyson
      Because of respect, honor and principle.

      People with no self-respect, honor and in-built principles will not understand the situation regardless.
      So if that's the case, plain & simple if one felt dishonored or disrespect don't accept the fight deal failed...So better understanding must be the key factor here, there were supposed negotiators & lawyers involved...

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        #713
        Originally posted by boxingfan76
        good post but *******s have no logic to understand this.
        What do you know about logic...

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          #714
          Originally posted by jetgeomcx
          you owned them again, brah!!
          sorry can't give u another green k yet.......

          poseurs and pretenders abound here....wizards and geniuses too.
          they type and post as if their words are gospel truth....
          and they can make their own boxing rules as well....what a bunch of jokes!!

          PEOPLE,.... pls read well and at least try to comprehend....or should i say try to UNDERSTAND the above post of GetSumBrah
          so let me get this straight: pac wants the full welterweight title but wants to fight at a non existent weight class 145,all whilst getting the bigger puse and ****ty demands and everyone in here you dont agree with makes their own rules?your the only joke here with cack suckn like that, dont be blowing getsum brah cuz hes morphing into a full blown *******. no offense get sum brah ,brah.

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            #715
            Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
            So if that's the case, plain & simple if one felt dishonored or disrespect don't accept the fight deal failed...So better understanding must be the key factor here, there were supposed negotiators & lawyers involved...
            Its not that complicated, if Pac wants Cotto's belt then Cotto should be treated with respect as the defending champion and not have to fight compromised. As a Pac fan would you really be proud of your hero walking around with 147lb title that he won under questionable conditions?

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              #716
              Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
              What do you know about logic...
              you think EVERYTHING PAC DOES IS PERFECT AND HOLY ,INFALLIBLE AND YOU QUESTION MY LOGIC? step off punk.YOUR AN EXTREMIST A PAC TARD EXTREMIST.

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                #717
                Originally posted by boxingfan76
                judging from pacs opponent selection lately the only one lacking confidence is quite clear : pac
                pac's opponents have been bigger and stronger than the previous.
                it is only when pac destroyed them they become shots and overrted overnyt!!
                pac is the underdog in size everytime he fyts lately...cotto is no exemption.
                are u intimating that cotto is shot or "nearly shot" tha's is why pac chose him??
                or mosley is a grandpa if pac chose to fyt him ...??
                same with jmm who is 35 now......
                or mayweather bcoz he's rusty for 2 years of inactivity....??

                your logic and arguments are clouded by your hatered...of pac and pacfans!!

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                  #718
                  Originally posted by boxingfan76
                  SEE THATS WHY YOU *******S ARE SOOOO WRONG " its only fair?"fair to whom? only fair in your twisted confused -ass mind.not fair to boxing or the fans or even pacs legacy and certainly not fair to cotto! only thinking of yourselves no class.
                  Another nonsense, how come it's not fair 145lb catch weight...Pac has a bigger risks to consider 5lbs while Cotto has only 2lbs to overcome...

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                  • tyson
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                    #719
                    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
                    So if that's the case, plain & simple if one felt dishonored or disrespect don't accept the fight deal failed...So better understanding must be the key factor here, there were supposed negotiators & lawyers involved...
                    Clearly there is motivation from Cotto to fight Pacquaio, which is why we are able to discuss this at all.

                    The fight should be scrapped; Pacquaio have nothing to do in the welterweight division if he does not want to fight at the welterweight limit.
                    In my opinion he should not be in that division regardless because he gives up too much in size.

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                      #720
                      Originally posted by boxingfan76
                      so let me get this straight: pac wants the full welterweight title but wants to fight at a non existent weight class 145,all whilst getting the bigger puse and ****ty demands and everyone in here you dont agree with makes their own rules?your the only joke here with cack suckn like that, dont be blowing getsum brah cuz hes morphing into a full blown *******. no offense get sum brah ,brah.
                      doesn't matter whether cotto put the belt on line or not!!
                      wbo will still proclaim pac the new champion if he wins!!
                      that is the ruling coming from wbo...read other articles and news....
                      dont's confine yourself here....get out of your ****hole, brah.
                      there is a big world out there too...not only boxing.

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