Roach: "Pacquiao Doesn't Need Cotto Without The Belt"

[MOREBASS]

why do people keep saying its arum and roach and the rest of the pac goon squad that is trying to make it a title fight. all of you are morons its pac greedy ***** ass that wants this to be a title fight.what else could pac want he all ready getting paid more then cotto and he got cotto at a bs catchweight man this **** is getting real ****** real quick. rember morons at the end of the day pac has the last say.pac is the one giving them the okay to say he wants a title fight.

Really ?

Did you see him say this with your own eyes ?


Pac has a ****ing 6th grade education. If you don't think his advisors and people around him are influencing him, then you must be as dumb as the rest of the people who believe every little article they read on the internet.

[buckdacious]

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YES, Miguel Cotto can possibly knock Pacquiao out
and win as well but he is the lesser of the three.
PLUS, Mosley/Floyd have GREAT trainers and corner
men. Cotto is lacking in that department.

I havent seen you in a minute. You breaking down sh it like always. Cotto is for sure the easiest one at of all

[Dave Rado]

Where have you been?? Cotto has agreed to everything, catch weight and the purse with no title, it is Pacman's team that are complaining know because they want the title involved and Cotto is willing to grant their wish, BUT AT 147.

A welterweight normal fight yes but not a "Championship Fight" which by WBO rules and Regulation are fight UP TO 147, not up to 145.
http://www.wbo-int.com/public/org/regulations.htm
Slip03 Got to this website so you can pls educate yourself, because Cotto doesn't need too
Morebass, Keyword is UP TO 147

Great post - tried to give you a green but it wouldn't let me.

[Osirus022]

Miguel Cotto should just say F#!k it! & rematch Mosley to try
to become the lineal champ at 147. Pacquiao and his team thinks
he is the Boxing God or something. With all his craziness and loud
mouth talk, Floyd never was this difficult when it came to making
his fights happen.

Thats what im thinkin, IF Pac doesnt make the fight wit Cotto he will try to get Floyd, but Floyd will not give him even 50% therefore it will never happen. Pac wont fight Mosley because even Mosley went as low as 140lbs and Pac didnt take it, there is a reason why.

Therefore Cotto can just fight Mosley, and now since its not in MSG Mosley will take that fight in Las Vegas. No Problem wit that, or there is Berto (idk if he will fight though) or Floyd (idk either) or any other good WW, **** even Cintron lol

[wizard king]

Really ?

Did you see him say this with your own eyes ?


Pac has a ****ing 6th grade education. If you don't think his advisors and people around him are influencing him, then you must be as dumb as the rest of the people who believe every little article they read on the internet.

of course dumb dip **** i can see pac saying that he cant be that ****ing retarted if he wants to run for president. i dont give a **** if i seen him or not weather you like it or not he has the last say in the deal. if he doest he really is a ****ing ******.

[Gutz]

The reason why they wanted Cotto to come down in weight is to make the fight closer to Manny's actual weightclass, which I would argue is 135, or maybe even 140 now.

Do you think they would be fighting at a catch weight if Manny was a natural welterweight ? **** no.

Of course Team Pacquiao is going to want every advantage they can. They're fighting against physically someone who is much bigger.

Everyone knows Manny is not a real welterweight. He's just talented enough to compete with welterweights.


Plus the fact that Pacquiao is the biggest show in boxing now, you can do things like this. Do you think Joan Guzman could negotiate a welterweight to come down to a catch weight to fight ?

Hell no.

The reason why they are able to do this is because people know that right now, fighting Manny Pacquiao is the biggest fight in boxing, with the biggest purse.

Only ******ed hater dont know this.... I'm a fan of both.. but Pacman is not a true WW and will never will be.. Pac can drop all the weight back to 135 easy..


What trips me out is Cotto who is hella bigger is scared of 2 ****ing pounds vs a guy who is a LW .. and wont put his belt up.. To me that the bigger pussie..

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[Osirus022]

the other day freddie roach said this-" what happened to the era when fighters just fought whats with all these excuses?" well freddie should practice what he preaches cause HE and his star pupil are the worst crybabies in the sport of boxing today all i hear from them is excuses as to why they wont fight mosley or jmm3 or now cotto excuses with floyd as well,lame excuse after lame excuse as to why they wont STEP UP AND FIGHT!

Roach got by boxingfan76

[DonTaseMeBrah]

given team pacs choice of opponents latley you cant honestley say theyd ever really consider fighting someone as dangerous as berto, williams, even valero and mosley come on brah,i know you think im a hater and i do certainley hate what team pac does which is picking the guys they feel theyll beat as opposed to the best guys .you cant say pac vs bradley would be a better fight than pac vs mosley or jmm come on bra be honest.

in this case cotto holds the cards not pac he has the welterweight belt not pac , and pacs other options are much higher risk lower reward fights, so u have it backwards pac may be the richest but hes not the one with the ace in this situation.

brah the only fights there that anyone would care about is mosley ,jmm, or floyd.and we all know theres no way in hell pacs facing mosley or jmm , hes ducked them relentlessly hard! you cant deny that.only other fight pacx would take is floyd but again both dudes think they are the greatest thing to ever happen to boxing,.that said all those matchups you mentioned are good fights but hardly what team pac wants which is high reward low risk fights.

cmon brah,

even you dont believe what your typing. there are only 2 superstars left since oscar retired. pac & mr. counterfeit cash. ricky is the next in terms of superstar & he's about gone.

pac & mr. counterfeit cash can fight anybody & it would be a big fight.

mosley, berto, valero, soto, all dont have fights scheduled. HBO wants pac vs mr. counterfeit cash. it would be a horrible, i mean horrible career move for cotto if he were to lose the pac fight for a belt he was gonna be forced to put up or vacate.

i cannot reiterate it enough how bad a career move it would be for cotto to lose the pac fight. he's the one that needs to move up not pac, he's already at the top. pac's legacy & place in history is set. is cotto's?

flip the script, who does cotto fight if he cant get pac? look at his choices? all the lobster & steaks will be chomping at the bit for pac not cotto.

pac compared to cotto is less risk & a magnitude of rewards & recognition.

The onus is on cotto, not pac.

[Dave Rado]

Pac wont fight Mosley because even Mosley went as low as 140lbs and Pac didnt take it, there is a reason why.

Cotto-Pac is a bigger money fight, and with their respective styles, it is expected by most experts to be a more entertaining fight as well. Roach and Pac have both made it clear that they'd be willing to fight Mosley, but they see the Cotto fight as a better fight to make at this stage, for the above reasons.

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

Only ******ed hater dont know this.... I'm a fan of both.. but Pacman is not a true WW and will never will be.. Pac can drop all the weight back to 135 easy..


What trips me out is Cotto who is hella bigger is scared of 2 ****ing pounds vs a guy who is a LW .. and wont put his belt up.. To me that the bigger pussie..

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its not about being a ***** its about if u want to fight for a title and your the one who challenged the other fighter then you should fight them at there BEST WEIGHT not some weight in the middle it would have been different if Cotto would have challenged him but no it was pacman and they agreed to a non title fight and now his ass wants to change everything it dont work that way if they wanted the title on the line they should have said so the first time not agree to a nontitle fight then after wards change everything