Kelly Pavlik vs. Paul Williams: Progress Being Made

[Heru]

It doesn't matter who the bigger draw is, it's not a ppv fight.

HBO put that money up, Pavlik-Sturm was only gonna get 2 mil for their budget, this is almost double that.

If I was on P-Will's team I'd ultimately take the fight with that split and be happy that Williams will be the new middleweight champ, but I'd negotiate for at least 1.75 mil.

That was yesterday. Props to myself.

[bbeverly1]

Paul Williams is Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright, with a little PBF. Kelly Pavlik will be on ESPN after his next fight. LOL

[DuttyAlacrity]

For the people thinking Paul Williams will easily beat Pavlik like Hopkins did, let me remind you that Paul is no where near the fighter that Hopkins is (footwork, defense, ring intellegence...Hopkins has mastered the sweet science to say the least)....

I think it'll go right down to the wire...you have the power punher who puts tremendous pressure and stalks his opponents...but who is very one deminsional if you create angels and stop his "1-2" offense......then you have a volume puncher who outhustles his opponents with his work rate and over whelms you....but has bad foot work and does not have much pop in his punches......so I think we have a pretty interesting match up with styles that can make a great fight.....just my opinon anyways

and a good one I may add
i don't agree with everything you said but nonetheless green k

[Iceta]

I'm telling you. They need to each get a percentage of everything
even if it is not down the middle because like I said on another thread
they both need each other at this point BUT Paul Williams has a more
promising position with HBO AND could just land a fight with Sergei,
beat him and become champion at 154 and really build his stats up.
Bob Arum needs to budge a little and stop trying to be unrealistic.
If I represented Williams I wouldn't stand for him not getting a piece
of the gate OR sponsorship? That a few MILLION right there. I think
HBO is going to put the pressure on both sides but mostly on Arum to
make this happen. The deal don't have to be 50/50, it could be 55/45.
Apparently HBO is not interested in Pavlik as much as Williams so that's
a big edge in favor of Goosen.

You've got a point there. But that is because of the Middlweight division being ****, and Williams has said that he is willing to expand his options by competing in different weight classes. Of course the Hopkins loss has took some shine away from Pavlik as well. The problem with Goosen's position though that I think will keep the fight from getting made is the fact that he is demanding 50-50 for the gate and sponsorship, when his last fight lost money where that is concerned. Now he deserves some of it because of his name, but not half of it.

And the part of the story where I've mentioned that Williams doesn't need Pavlik as much as Pavlik needs him is a reality. I've said that all along because of my frustration with Pavlik for not fighting Abraham. But I don't know man, I'm starting to think that fight not coming off wasn't really Pavlik's or Abraham's fault. HBO just never jumped on the fight for one reason or another. Probably because of Abraham's low profile in the US being the reason. The reason why I think Arum is going to pass on this offer with Williams is because he knows he can still milk Pavlik on a Top Rank PPV. This fight won't happen. Watch.

[Roger Mellie]

Paul Williams is Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright, with a little PBF. Kelly Pavlik will be on ESPN after his next fight. LOL

I nearly pissed myself when I read that!

[Roger Mellie]

If this fight happens because PW is willing to take less money to make it happen, then he deserves massive respect.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

If this fight happens because PW is willing to take less money to make it happen, then he deserves massive respect.

WTF?

He should accept the fight already. And he ofcourse will get less money than Pavlik if you think he deserves more money than Pavlik you are delusional.

1.55 mill is more than enough considering the budget.

Willams can draw flies to ****. His fight with Winky had lss than 2K people and half of those went to see Arreola!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roger Mellie]

WTF?

He should accept the fight already. And he ofcourse will get less money than Pavlik if you think he deserves more money than Pavlik you are delusional.

1.55 mill is more than enough considering the budget.

Willams can draw flies to ****. His fight with Winky had lss than 2K people and half of those went to see Arreola!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not saying that he deserves more than Pavlik, but he does have a strong argument for a good deal, and in a time where lots of fights fall apart because of money, that is refreshing.

[boricuarn]

This fight should be a good one. I believe Pavlik has a lot to lose if he does not win, in the other hand PW will gain more reputation with a victory which he has a big chance to win in this fight.

[MELLY-MEL...]

WTF?

He should accept the fight already. And he ofcourse will get less money than Pavlik if you think he deserves more money than Pavlik you are delusional.

1.55 mill is more than enough considering the budget.

Willams can draw flies to ****. His fight with Winky had lss than 2K people and half of those went to see Arreola!!!!!!!!!!!

that's correct.