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  • mikelovesfood
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    #21
    Originally posted by catalinul
    ''YOU GOT THE FIGHT WON,keep boxing''.As in we should win unless they robb us big time even if we give the last rounds.
    I don't care how you dice this argument.

    Any fighter who comes in the ring with that mentality DESERVES to lose bar none.

    He lost that fight deservingly so.

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    • JM1
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      #22
      i grew up watching oscar and hes one of my all time favorites. i think he deserves to be at least in the top 100 for fighting the best the sport have to offer.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mikelovesfood
        I don't care how you dice this argument.

        Any fighter who comes in the ring with that mentality DESERVES to lose bar none.

        He lost that fight deservingly so.
        Forreal, man. I don't even understand how they defend it. "Aww man, he deserved to win for trying to run out the clock during a boxing match! Not in the 12th but for about 3-4 straight rounds." I mean...wtf?

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        • catalinul
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          #24
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Man, even Harold Lederman disagrees with you. Take a poll of nearly every major outlet who covered the fight and they had it a one or two point swing in either direction. He didn't win the fight easy and it wasn't a blowout. Actually, he didn't win the fight at all.
          Lederman disagreeing with me is good since he has scored a fight not being drunk for years.

          DLH won the fight clearly to me.

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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            He wasn't robbed against Tito, he robbed himself. I'm sick of hearing that, man. Regardless of who you felt won it was actually a close fight. Even the Oscar cheering squad aka HBO announcers had it tight going into the 12th. Let it go. He lost and deservedly so.
            No way.
            Oscar was way ahead and was completly robbed. No way can a logical person score that fight for Tito.
            He didn't win it.
            And in cause you didnt know, boxing commentators often say fights are closer than they are to inspirse excitement and tension for viewers.

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            • mikelovesfood
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              #26
              I also stand firmly in my belief that Ike Quartey got robbed against DLH...Total BS IMO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Forreal, man. I don't even understand how they defend it. "Aww man, he deserved to win for trying to run out the clock during a boxing match! Not in the 12th but for about 3-4 straight rounds." I mean...wtf?
                But still, most people are in agreement that he won more rounds than Tito at the end of the day, so...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by catalinul
                  Lederman disagreeing with me is good since he has scored a fight not being drunk for years.

                  DLH won the fight clearly to me.
                  Good for you. And as I mentioned, nearly every major outlet had it a tight, tight fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Agreed. It's ludicrous to think someone goes..."I'm boxing so easy, guess what? Now I'ma run!" Any boxer who is supposedly boxing so well will either continue to do that or (hey!) even step it up. But De La Hoya's stick and move strategy worked up until his legs turned to lead and Tito starting closing the distance. It was either run or get continually tagged by one of the hardest-hitting welters ever. It's amazing that people who watch boxing haven't quite figured out why there's never been another instance of a fighter who was supposedly dominating doing something like that


                    especially someone with an extensive amateur background and an olympic pedigree...to just stop throwing and dance around like an idiot and give the fight away, was just foolish

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mikelovesfood
                      I also stand firmly in my belief that Ike Quartey got robbed against DLH...Total BS IMO.
                      I've watched this fight so many times, and I've never once scored it for Quartey.

                      Even if you had it closer than I did, the KD in the 12th should be enough to justify Oscar getting the nod

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