For those who thinks Manny fights Past Prime fighters...Come to school

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  • LilGizmo562
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    #101
    Originally posted by Hard2kill
    All fighters fighting past prime.. period.. I'm tired of all of these bull****s here..

    Why all of these excuses haven't mentione prior to each fight? Why can't you just watch and enjoy boxing?

    I can smell excuse before Cotto-pacquio..

    If Cotto win - pac is tool small and overrated
    If pac wins, Cotto is a damaged good and past prime...

    So what are we gonna do to enjoy boxing without making excuses?

    There's a lot of hating going around here...
    Exactly just enjoy the sport and hope to continue having these good fights.

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    • shogunn
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      #102
      Originally posted by LilGizmo562
      I remember reading though that if he outweighed Manny the fight was going to be called off, that is true, so DLH didn't want to lose his money.
      that was for the official weigh in. No rules on the unofficial fight night weigh in.

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      • BennyST
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        #103
        Originally posted by BAD-BOY
        Fighters after fighting Manny seem to lose something more than the fight. So people are quick to say they were shot before fighting Manny...That seems to be a lie. Just to name a few...
        Barrera won 8 straight before fighting Manny!
        Morralas fought 8 fights only losing once to Barrera before fighting Manny.
        DLH Lost 2 out of 5 fights...Floyd Mayweather & Bernard Hopkins. Both great fighters.
        Diaz has won 9 straight fights before Manny. His only 2 losses to Manny & Holt.
        Hatton...45 fights only losing to Floyd and Pacquiao.
        JMM 7&1 the one loss out of that 7 , to Manny.

        None of these fighters at the time of fighting Manny showed NO signs of being Past Prime.
        Barrera in the first fight was still prime. Marquez was still close his prime also as was Hatton kind of. The others though were not. I know you want him to look good, but these fights were just against guys who were past it. Oscar was 36, a part time fighter for years, hadn't made WW in seven years and had lost half of his last six fights.

        Diaz was just Diaz. He wasn't past prime at all, he was just never any good.

        Morales was done as a top fighter. The first Pac fight was his last hurrah. He fought very well, but that war as well as his last war against Barrera, which he lost and got beaten up pretty bad had finally taken everything out of him. He then lost to Raheem badly looking like ****e and then the second fight with Manny he just didn't have the legs anymore and truly was cooked and served up in the last fight.

        Hatton was also just Hatton. Looked terrible against Lazcano and nearly got popped the same as Manny and Mayweather did him and then beat Paulie, but I think he was never going to win at that stage against any good top fighter. It was the end for him one way or another and Pac really made him see the end quickly.Poor bastard.

        The thing that gets me though about your post is that you said none of these guys showed any signs of being past their best. All that means is that you have never seen them at their best. Compare Oscar to when he was fighting Mosley, Whitaker, Quartey, Carr etc. How can you possibly he say he looked the same? My god, there is such a huge difference which is why people say he was shot.

        Hatton had struggled against aforementioned fighters and been knocked out badly by Mayweather. Morales looked nothing like he used to years before as when he fought Barrera for the first time. There were big differences which is why people say this stuff.

        Anyway, none of it matters because he is fighting a very prime Cotto who just beat arguably the most skilled fighter in the WW division in Clottey. We'll see.

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        • LilGizmo562
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          #104
          Originally posted by shogunn
          that was for the official weigh in. No rules on the unofficial fight night weigh in.
          Read it again, Roach and Arum said Manny won't fight if DLH outweighed him.

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          • Titing Kabayo
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            #105
            Originally posted by LilGizmo562
            Read it again, Roach and Arum said Manny won't fight if DLH outweighed him.
            Let me clear out what you said...

            DLH will pay 1M for every pound in excess of 147 during weigh in... It does not mean DLH should not rehydrate after the weigh in...

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            • LilGizmo562
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              #106
              Originally posted by Hard2kill
              Let me clear out what you said...

              DLH will pay 1M for every pound in excess of 147 during weigh in... It does not mean DLH should not rehydrate after the weigh in...
              I know, I said that, I think it was changed into 3 mil, but I also remember reading that Roach would have not have allowed Manny to fight if DLH would have re hydrated to 160, so to play it safe DLH came in at 147 to the fight.

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              • shadeyfizzle
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                #107
                Originally posted by LilGizmo562
                I know, I said that, I think it was changed into 3 mil, but I also remember reading that Roach would have not have allowed Manny to fight if DLH would have re hydrated to 160, so to play it safe DLH came in at 147 to the fight.
                No sir. They just had the option of calling of the fight should dlh have decided to weigh in officially at let's say 152 like he did in the forbes fight.

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                • LilGizmo562
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  No sir. They just had the option of calling of the fight should dlh have decided to weigh in officially at let's say 152 like he did in the forbes fight.
                  I see, well DLH is an idiot.

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                  • P4Pacquiao
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                    #109
                    PACQUIAO is best fighter ever lived hands down!

                    He aint bi.tch like FRAUD BUMWEATHER JR. which runs all day!

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                    • goblin
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by P4Pacquiao
                      PACQUIAO is best fighter ever lived hands down!

                      He aint bi.tch like FRAUD BUMWEATHER JR. which runs all day!
                      can u please name me all the fights that Mayweather ran in before the baldimor fight? Cause all this running comments went nuts after that fight and the hoya one aswell..So please list..im expecting LOTS of vids of floyd running and running since thats what most say..thank you

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