Kelly Pavlik-Paul Williams Hits a Serious Roadblock

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  • El Talegon
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    #71
    hope this happens.. this is good **** a week after the marquez vs mayweather bout. I think if Pavlik and Williams go at it this could be very well candidate for fight of the year. We need this as fans

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    • Carlisle
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      #72
      Beat the hell out of Kelly Pavlik THEN negotiate on your terms.

      Paul... you made your name on claims to be the best from 147-160.. prove it.
      Beat the hell out of Kelly Pavlik THEN you can negotiate on your terms.

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      • ny123
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        #73
        Originally posted by Carlisle
        This is an easy fight for Paul Williams... you think Bernard Hopkins boxed his head off.. what is he going to do against Williams who can box AND match Pavliks work rate? The title is more important than the money.. when he beats Pavlik he will be the best fighter from 147-160. That will bring some real money. Easy money and belt for Williams.. forget the gate.
        yeah because williams boxing skill and hopkins are in the same league. p williams has no defense watch the mattyste sharmba mitchell qiuntana fights if you dont believe me. his strenghts are his chin and workrate not his master boxing skills he will get hit by pavlik and probaly lose

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #74
          Originally posted by ny123
          yeah because williams boxing skill and hopkins are in the same league. p williams has no defense watch the mattyste sharmba mitchell qiuntana fights if you dont believe me. his strenghts are his chin and workrate not his master boxing skills he will get hit by pavlik and probaly lose
          That's how I see it.

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          • el malo
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            #75
            Originally posted by Carlisle
            Paul... you made your name on claims to be the best from 147-160.. prove it. Beat the hell out of Kelly Pavlik THEN you can negotiate on your terms.
            cosign well said. heres pauls chance to prove it and get a career high payday in the process.

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #76
              Originally posted by Carlisle
              Paul... you made your name on claims to be the best from 147-160.. prove it.
              Beat the hell out of Kelly Pavlik THEN you can negotiate on your terms.
              I totally agree with that But can't knock his team for trying to
              get the best deal BUT with that said Goosen/Haymon shouldn't
              let this opportunity pass, considering! that it will be on HBO
              AND it is for the title at 160. Williams stands to win a lot more
              in the long run.

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              • Xcusemymood
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                #77
                Originally posted by Vladimir303
                [SIZE="4"]How is Williams's resume on par with Pavlik's? Please explain that to me.

                Did Willimas ever win the Undisputed World Title at any weight class, beating a linear Ring Magazine Champion?

                Your logic is skewed.[/
                SIZE]
                Not necessarily.

                One could say that Paul DOMINATED Winky Wright. The same Winky Wright who many people felt beat the same Jermain Taylor(I personally had it a draw) Pavlik did for the championship.

                Therefor one could say that Pauls biggest win is on par with Pavliks. That is hardly disputable.

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                • Iceta
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  I'm not dis*****g the points being made but I would try to
                  get $ from everything too, instead of settling right out the gate.
                  Why take nothing, when you can potentially get a piece
                  of it all by holding out a lil? IF it was me and it's not, I would
                  take the $1.55 MIL and the opportunity BUT you have to
                  understand that the guys trying to negotiate this fight is
                  talking for Pavlik/Williams. I think this fight could be the
                  career boost Williams needs to reach the point where he
                  becomes a bigger name and IF his team can't come to an
                  arrangement then they will hurt his rep and name UNLESS
                  they have other plans for Paul. I agree that Williams doesn't
                  have the luxury to disregard fighters because he is still trying
                  to break out.
                  The only way that what Williams and Goosen are doing turns out to be right is if HBO eliminates all of Pavlik's other options at 160. Williams has a bigger talent pool to choose from because of his ability to move up and down in weight. But he needs to plant his feet somewhere.

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                  • Carlisle
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                    #79
                    What have you done for me lately?

                    Pavlik made a name off of Jermaine Taylor and Miranda.. neither of whom can box. What have you done for me lately? Williams on the other hand dominated Winky Wright and beat Margarito with casts on. Pavlik aint ****. Did you not see Hopkins school him like an amateur?

                    Originally posted by ny123
                    yeah because williams boxing skill and hopkins are in the same league. p williams has no defense watch the mattyste sharmba mitchell qiuntana fights if you dont believe me. his strenghts are his chin and workrate not his master boxing skills he will get hit by pavlik and probaly lose

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                    • ny123
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Carlisle
                      Pavlik made a name off of Jermaine Taylor and Miranda.. neither of whom can box. What have you done for me lately? Williams on the other hand dominated Winky Wright and beat Margarito with casts on. Pavlik aint ****. Did you not see Hopkins school him like an amateur?
                      yeah i did see him get schooled by a master boxer named bernard hopkins someone who has nothing in common with paul williams. hopkins is a stronger and more skilled fighter then williams. williams does have a chance against pavlik because of his amazing workrate and decent chin but he will get hit a lot and i dont know if he can hold up against a power puncher like pavlik

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