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  • #61
    Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
    Now lets get serious!
    he would ko wlad in 5 you need to watch more tapes of holmes he was one bad motha

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    • #62
      I think Holmes would beat him as well. Even if not Holmes is a durable guy that would at very least give Wlad the hardest fight he's ever seen.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by TEDetc View Post
        HAHAHHAAHA

        Oh man...you're actually serious aren't you, LOL. Lets just not mention the fact an over the hill Holmes went in the ring with a prime Mike Tyson and accuse him of being scared of people like Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas, LOL. You're either a hater or you have an agenda because nobody is this ******.
        He took Tyson too lightly. I know it sounds silly, but hear me out. He thought Tyson was just another hyped big puncher with no reflexes or skill. He thought he could jab and dance around him throughout the match and occasinally land a power punch and that would be enough. Thomas on the other hand was a great jabber. He showed that against Tyson himself. He was more of a "thinker" than Tyson. And yet he had power. Same with Coetzee and a prime Page.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
          Wladimir said he was drugged and that's evidence enough for me. He was still living in Germany back then and considered a German fighter, not American. Americans can get away with everything, Europeans can't.
          LMAO Is this serious, Wlad said he was drugged so I take him at his word?????? LOL

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jone2ts View Post
            LMAO Is this serious, Wlad said he was drugged so I take him at his word?????? LOL
            Why would he lie? Ok, it did look like he had punched himself out, but why did he collapse after such a small flurry? That looked su****ious for sure. And Wladimir is no liar.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
              He took Tyson too lightly. I know it sounds silly, but hear me out. He thought Tyson was just another hyped big puncher with no reflexes or speed. He thought he could jab and dance around him throughout the match and occasinally land a power punch and that would be enough. Thomas on the other hand was a great jabber. He showed that against Tyson himself. He was more of a "thinker" than Tyson. And yet he had power. Same with Coetzee and a prime Page.
              So Holmes was scared by "thinker" fighters with power rather than a prime Tyson who everyone was scared of ? Aint buying into that, Holmes wasn't scared of any man he went 15 rounds with Norton, took a punch of death from Shavers, took a solid McCall in 95 12 rounds and tons more. To say this man ducked anyone is a complete insult. Holmes ducked noone.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by TEDetc View Post
                So Holmes was scared by "thinker" fighters with power rather than a prime Tyson who everyone was scared of ? Aint buying into that, Holmes wasn't scared of any man he went 15 rounds with Norton, took a punch of death from Shavers, took a solid McCall in 95 12 rounds and tons more. To say this man ducked anyone is a complete insult. Holmes ducked noone.
                He vacated the WBC title instead of giving Witherspoon a rematch. That's a fact buddy. Stop worshipping the man. He beat up a sick Ali. Constantly talked smack about his opponents. Terrible Tim said that he talked trash about his family before the bout. The Berbick incident was more likely not just Berbick's fault. Does this sound like a person worthy of worship? I'll rather worship Hopkins!Lol! Ali,Frazier,Norton,Holyfield, those are the guys to worship. And Michael Spinks, who said this about Holmes and beating him: "Yes, I was happy to beat him. He beat my brother and he beat Ali. He enjoyed hurting people."
                Last edited by Benncollinsaad; 07-25-2009, 05:56 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TEDetc View Post
                  HAHAHHAAHA

                  Oh man...you're actually serious aren't you, LOL. Lets just not mention the fact an over the hill Holmes went in the ring with a prime Mike Tyson and accuse him of being scared of people like Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas, LOL. You're either a hater or you have an agenda because nobody is this ******.
                  Nobody said Larry Holmes was scared. But you can't pretend that he fought every top fighter in his era. Did he fight the title holders that I mentioned? Or did he fight Scott Franks, Ossie Ocassio, Tex Cobb, Alfredo Evangelista, etc?

                  Before you call someone else a hater, try arguing with facts.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    Nobody said Larry Holmes was scared. But you can't pretend that he fought every top fighter in his era. Did he fight the title holders that I mentioned? Or did he fight Scott Franks, Ossie Ocassio, Tex Cobb, Alfredo Evangelista, etc?

                    Before you call someone else a hater, try arguing with facts.
                    Right on mate!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
                      Wladimir said he was drugged and that's evidence enough for me. He was still living in Germany back then and considered a German fighter, not American. Americans can get away with everything, Europeans can't.
                      So it's not evidence, it's an excuse.

                      Hopkins said his loss to Joe was due to a Thyroid condition with nothing more than his own word with no medical documents you'd take that as evidence?

                      Kessler could say he broke his hand before the fight with Joe with no evidence other than his own word again with not medical documents thats evidence?

                      Tarver said his loss to Hopkins was due to cutting weight quickly after the Rocky movie with no evidence other than his word is that evidence? Same as Jones losing to Tarver after cutting weight from Heavyweight

                      Hatton said Cortez was the reason he lost to Mayweather and with a different ref he would have won, if that evidence?

                      So when Wlad says he's drugged with nothing but his own word as evidence you believe him with no medical results of any kind? When Lennox said his loss to Rahman was due to not training enough because of appearing in the Oceans movie with nothing other than his own word its not true?

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