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  • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
    147 is not a division.

    welterweight is a division.

    147 is the weight LIMIT of the division, which is welterweight.

    welterweight 141-147.

    I repeat, 147 is not a division. it is a number of the maximum amount of weight u can come in & still QUALIFY as a welterweight bout.

    Just to recap;

    147 is not a division, but the weight limit of a division, called welterweight.
    but the solid argument is that because he's not allowed to weigh in at the max limit that he believes he shouldn't have to put the belt on the line. is that about right jab/jack?

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    • Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
      Jabs, my man, let me get your thoughts about the credibility of the division


      let's say the fight eventually becomes non-title bout even if its in within the welter limits....the fight goes on and Cotto proceeds to lose


      how credible would it be for the '47 division to have a title holder that just lost? lost within the limits of the division against a smaller fighter

      That is the biggest problem with catchweights and why I don't like them. ANY title fight should be held within the total limits of the division. If Cotto lost it would look bad of course. But if he is forced to put that title on the line without being given the whole scope of the division, Pacquiao's victory is tainted. I think Pac is going to beat him, I just think it should be done fairly. 145 is not the limit no matter how you look at it.

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      • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        That is the biggest problem with catchweights and why I don't like them. ANY title fight should be held within the total limits of the division. If Cotto lost it would look bad of course. But if he is forced to put that title on the line without being given the whole scope of the division, Pacquiao's victory is tainted. I think Pac is going to beat him, I just think it should be done fairly. 145 is not the limit no matter how you look at it.
        cotto had the option not to sign the fight, but somewhere along the contract he saw how much $ was at stake then his conscious spoke.

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        • Originally posted by mikelovesfood View Post
          you can try to justify your point all you want, but if cotto loses and retains the belt he'll be the biggest ass in the boxing world.

          Fair enough. But if Pac wins it with a new weight limit that Cotto was forced to put the title on the line, there should be an asterisk in the record books.

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          • if pac beats cotto we all know he'd be considered a champ in 7 weight classes

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            • Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
              Jabs, my man, let me get your thoughts about the credibility of the division


              let's say the fight eventually becomes non-title bout even if its in within the welter limits....the fight goes on and Cotto proceeds to lose


              how credible would it be for the '47 division to have a title holder that just lost? lost within the limits of the division against a smaller fighter
              Ok, Mak. Then if the weight is so insignificant why bother w/ the catchweight?

              I don't mind 45' as long as its just a showcase fight. But if he wants to fight for the title then Cotto must be allowed to make the 47' limit.

              45' null and voids the title because Cotto isn't allowed to make the weight he won his title at.

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              • Originally posted by flipside View Post
                if pac beats cotto we all know he'd be considered a champ in 7 weight classes
                Why doesn't the man grow bigger balls under that baby carrot and face Cotto at the WW limit of 147. I ask you...

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                • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  Fair enough. But if Pac wins it with a new weight limit that Cotto was forced to put the title on the line, there should be an asterisk in the record books.
                  he wasn't forced. he signed the contract before pac did.

                  if anyone being forced pac was. arums bonus check makes it evident.

                  the biggest blunder was not putting the belt up for grabs somewhere along the fine print.

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                  • I think Cotto just want more from the cut. If WBO sanctions it, Cotto will have to pay 3% from his cut. Maybe if the Arum pays it, that`s what they want.

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                    • Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                      Why doesn't the man grow bigger balls under that baby carrot and face Cotto at the WW limit of 147. I ask you...
                      because he's afraid of the overwhelming advantage cotto will have.

                      the fans,team cotto have to sacrifice 2lbs to make this fight. i think the trade-off is justified.

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