Pac wants to contest Cotto’s title/ Cotto insists that it should be a Non Title!

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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #271
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    First off, stop being a little prick. Second, the limit is 147. If the title is at stake the champion should be allowed to come in up to that weight. Its about the credibility of the division.


    Jabs, my man, let me get your thoughts about the credibility of the division


    let's say the fight eventually becomes non-title bout even if its in within the welter limits....the fight goes on and Cotto proceeds to lose


    how credible would it be for the '47 division to have a title holder that just lost? lost within the limits of the division against a smaller fighter

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    • RodBarker
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      #272
      Originally posted by JAB5239

      doesn't make it right. A champion shouldn't be forced to put his title on the line if not given the courtesy to fight within to total parameter of the weight class. If he chooses to, fine. But to force it is unfair.

      I dont think its unfair Jab , youve got to look at it from all angles here ,,, first is Cotto has a choice nothing is being forced all is negotiated , then you have Cotto being given the opportunity to make his career highest purse against one of the most recognized sort after fighters in the world to win Cottos market value goes sky high , then you have the rules and this fight is inside the boundarys of a recognized WW fight , then last but not least is Pac is way smaller and is the one who will be handicapped on the night of the fight ,,,,,, Cotto gets beat he should loose any WW titles he has in my view !

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      • Jose Rizal
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        #273
        IF Cotto loses, I'm sure in a lot of people's eyes he won't deserve that garbage title anyway after being beaten by a light welter Champion. In the first place, he was the one who called Manny out to jump into his turf. If Cotto wins then no problem, he can keep the belts.

        But if he gets beaten, he can cling to that belt like it was a teddy bear in bed when he sleeps at night and it would still be completely meaningless. It's better if he puts it up for grabs in this fight like a true defending welterweight Champ than end up being a paper chump, IMO.

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        • shadeyfizzle
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          #274
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          It changes the integrity if the champion is unwillingly forced to to put that title on the line under a new set of weight guidelines. Like I said, if he chooses to do so fine.
          oh ok. agreed then. I felt the fight should have been at 147 to begin with. Cotto will make 145 as comfortably as he would make 147 and weigh in just as much on fight night and i think Pacquiao beats him either way so i dont know what the point was.

          But now that it's already inked at 145 i say fcuk it. Cotto should just put his belt on the line anyway. I wanna see history in november.

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          • mikelovesfood
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            #275
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Who are you to say it isn't a disadvantage? If it isn't a disadvantage, wgy not just fight within the established limits?

            you can try to justify your point all you want, but if cotto loses and retains the belt he'll be the biggest ass in the boxing world.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #276
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              First off, stop being a little prick. Second, the limit is 147. If the title is at stake the champion should be allowed to come in up to that weight. Its about the credibility of the division.
              Well said Jab, I'm for the title not being put on the line, unless Cotto is allowed to come in at 147.

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              • MJ406
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                #277
                Catchweight Madness

                what's funny is if this fight wasn't at a catchweight the title potentially not being on the line wouldn't be an issue.

                damn catchweights and all the ****** problems they add.



                November 14th Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto

                "Battle of the Catchweight"

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                • DonTaseMeBrah
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                  #278
                  147 is not a division.

                  welterweight is a division.

                  147 is the weight LIMIT of the division, which is welterweight.

                  welterweight 141-147.

                  I repeat, 147 is not a division. it is a number of the maximum amount of weight u can come in & still QUALIFY as a welterweight bout.

                  Just to recap;

                  147 is not a division, but the weight limit of a division, called welterweight.

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                  • mikelovesfood
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    Jabs, my man, let me get your thoughts about the credibility of the division


                    let's say the fight eventually becomes non-title bout even if its in within the welter limits....the fight goes on and Cotto proceeds to lose


                    how credible would it be for the '47 division to have a title holder that just lost? lost within the limits of the division against a smaller fighter
                    signed K+ on the way.

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                    • ThunderWolf
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                      147 is not a division.

                      welterweight is a division.

                      147 is the weight LIMIT of the division, which is welterweight.

                      welterweight 141-147.

                      I repeat, 147 is not a division. it is a number of the maximum amount of weight u can come in & still QUALIFY as a welterweight bout.

                      Just to recap;

                      147 is not a division, but the weight limit of a division, called welterweight.
                      Yes, but Cotto doesn`t seem to know that.

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