Who will you be rooting for: Haye or Vitali?

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  • THEDOC
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    #71
    Originally posted by Stickman
    I didn't bother answering myself because the guy is delusional. Not sure why you bothered.
    Originally posted by Stickman
    No, buddy, it's because you addressed my points with arguments that had little or no basis in fact, and I saw no reason to continue a discussion with someone who either doesn't entirely understand the sport, and more specifically, the style of the fighters he's discussing, or is just a fan of the guy and can't see him losing. Debating either with you would be pointless, fruitless, and endless, and I don't like wasting my time like that.
    No fact, you asked who had he fought taller and cruiser, and i informed you. The two fighters you brought up to be faster, are in fact not faster. You then just made baseless claims about how Haye will get frustrated and quit, two things he has yet ever to do in his career. But I agree it would be fruitless for you to continue debating as you are indeed wasting your time, when using factless, scenario-guessing platforms for debating...

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #72
      Originally posted by Carnivore
      The reason Mormeck gave Haye more problems despite being smaller is that although he was semi-shot, he was still a good fighter, better than bums like Gurov and Maccarinelli.

      Vitali is not only taller at 6'7" than anyone Haye's ever fight, he's also a good fighter with a solid chin. Vitali has never been down in a fight, despite taking Lennox's best punches.
      AND he's a huge HW, which Haye no one he has faced can prepare him for.

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      • Stickman
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        #73
        Originally posted by THEDOC
        No fact, you asked who had he fought taller and cruiser, and i informed you. The two fighters you brought up to be faster, are in fact not faster. You then just made baseless claims about how Haye will get frustrated and quit, two things he has yet ever to do in his career. But I agree it would be fruitless for you to continue debating as you are indeed wasting your time, when using factless, scenario-guessing platforms for debating...
        I thought I was clear before, Pal, but since you didn't get it, I'll be more plain: I'm not going to discuss this with you, Your arguments don't hold water, and you try and slant **** to suit your purpose, and then you get pissy like a ***** when someone points out that you didn't make any sense. You can "discuss" this **** with everyone else on the thread, but you and me, we're done. I demand a bit more maturity out of people I'm debating with.

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        • THEDOC
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          #74
          Originally posted by Carnivore
          The reason Mormeck gave Haye more problems despite being smaller is that although he was semi-shot, he was still a good fighter, better than bums like Gurov and Maccarinelli.

          Vitali is not only taller at 6'7" than anyone Haye's ever fight, he's also a good fighter with a solid chin. Vitali has never been down in a fight, despite taking Lennox's best punches.

          That's undoubedly true, which is why he is the champ and the biggest possible challenge for Haye. Which is why he should be appaulded for his ambition and desire, not labelled a fraud by so many

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #75
            Originally posted by THEDOC
            No fact, you asked who had he fought taller and cruiser, and i informed you. The two fighters you brought up to be faster, are in fact not faster. You then just made baseless claims about how Haye will get frustrated and quit, two things he has yet ever to do in his career. But I agree it would be fruitless for you to continue debating as you are indeed wasting your time, when using factless, scenario-guessing platforms for debating...
            I believe you were the guy spouting off about how Haye fares better against much taller fighters, how Vitali is tailor made for him. Truth is Haye has never faced anyone remotely resembling Vit, while Vitali has faced Herbie Hide, who is very much like Haye.

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            • Ogecca MaMa
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              #76
              Originally posted by Stickman
              That was actually a pretty good post, kid. Green to ya, and that means alot, as I don't hand it out that often.
              thanks mate)

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              • THEDOC
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                #77
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                I believe you were the guy spouting off about how Haye fares better against much taller fighters, how Vitali is tailor made for him. Truth is Haye has never faced anyone remotely resembling Vit, while Vitali has faced Herbie Hide, who is very much like Haye.
                We will find out how much Vitali fits into that mould. But past history shows us that Haye has been successful against A) tall fighters B) Eastern European fighters. Herbie is similar but not in the class of Haye, Haye does everything better than Herbie.

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                • AAupsetsSMW
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                  #78
                  haye cuz vitali is the brother of wladimir and jes thats it. thats the reason why i chose haye.... no i think haye is a cool dude

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by THEDOC
                    We will find out how much Vitali fits into that mould. But past history shows us that Haye has been successful against A) tall fighters B) Eastern European fighters. Herbie is similar but not in the class of Haye, Haye does everything better than Herbie.
                    One thing is certain, the Vitali that fought Hide absolutely destroys Haye. We'll see how much age, inactivity and injuries have affected Vit in this one. But lol at your logic of "Haye has looked great against 3rd tier tall and Eastern European CWs, so he beats the two best HWs in the world."

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                    • Dynamite Glove
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by warp1432
                      Haye, so Wlad can smash him.
                      This is, by far, the best post I've ever read from someone under 18.

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