Mayweather: "MMA is for beer drinkers" [Video]

[Heru]

What does ****sexuality have to do with fighting? Real fighting isn't punching. If you were in a war, out of ammo, have no knife. Your going to try to stand there and throw punches only? GTFO. BJJ doesn't have to do with the picture, the fact is that FULL BODY COMBAT SPORTS always existed and existed before Boxing.

Pankration is an ancient olympian sport. If your going to argue against that, your an idiot.

MIXED Martial Arts. Not Brazilian Jiujitsu, muay thai, and wrestling. Original JuJutsu, what BJJ branched off from, is an ancient martial art.

You should do research on martial arts before failing someone.

Lol, the gay thing was a joke.

If you would have read the post correctly, there was no argument for against how old pankration is. The argument was on BJJ being one of the main components to mma and it not dating back to ancient times. ****, BJJ was invented in the past 100 years.

You're talking about what it branched off from, the fact is BJJ is one of the more recent martial arts forms. So when your argument is how far the history of mma dates back, more so than boxing, you fail because one of the main components of it, is recent compared. And even though some of the martial art forms are ancient the fusion of all of them together is new. Mma is a new sport. This is not debatable and them apples quoted how old boxing is.

[F l i c k e r]

floyd is right you don't have to train your whole life to be good at mma and those who have trained most of there usually go to the top

lol, you should have said, "You dont have to COMPETE in mma your whole life to be good at it".

These guys are doing martial arts from when they were elementary kids. If not martial arts, then it's wrestling or boxing. Either way, they are training it just as much as boxers do for boxing.

But competing in it your whole life, no. You dont have to compete your whole life to be good at it. But they compensate for that by partaking in martial arts competitions(bjj tourneys, kyokushin karate tournys, muay thai comps, judo tournys) and wrestling tournaments. In boxing you pretty much have to compete in it for a long time before you get to the top.

[them_apples]

Are you sure about that?



Resembles the basic Foot Jab in MMA.



Double leg takedown. Need I say more?



Resembles a Kimura no?


Looks like Pankration applies to MMA. Just because a fighter doesn't have specified "Pankration" style. Doesn't mean it's not in it.

Mixed Martial Arts is just martial arts from everywhere brought into a competition. Martial Arts is the same now as when the first civilization created set ways of fighting. Full body fighting always existed before strictly punching.

yes..but it was basically only recently popularized. It's not like there have been dozens of pankration gyms opened where people have practiced the art over and over again and become masters. Pankration is a "dead art" so I've heard. It's not some ancient sport that people have been practicing on large for years. At best there are the odd few, but if you were to put all of the boxing information and ideas gathered throughout the years beside all of the pankration mastery, the size difference would be huge.

there are fist striking arts all throughout Asia that date back even further than Greece, does this mean they are in the same class as boxing like Pankration is to MMa?

chances are the Greeks got the idea from them anyways.

[F l i c k e r]

Lol, the gay thing was a joke.

If you would have read the post correctly, there was no argument for against how old pankration is. The argument was on BJJ being one of the main components to mma and it not dating back to ancient times. ****, BJJ was invented in the past 100 years.

You're talking about what it branched off from, the fact is BJJ is one of the more recent martial arts forms. So when your argument is how far the history of mma dates back, more so than boxing, you fail because one of the main components of it, is recent compared. And even though some of the martial art forms are ancient the fusion of all of them together is new. Mma is a new sport. This is not debatable and them apples quoted how old boxing is.

Oh, I understand what your guys are talking about now. I thought you guys were getting at a different point. But MMA being new, I have no argument against that but the actual competing of full body combat sports, I will argue that.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

NASCAR for white people? I know that **** is boring as hell, I hate watching it, but their is skill involved in it. TV definitely makes things look easier then they really are. And every weight class above welter is being ruled by whites, so why make the arguement.

[MARKBNLV]

Excerpts:

"It takes true skills to be in the sport of boxing, and-and Mixed Martial Art is for beer drinkers, boxing is for everybody. This is-uh, you can't take my shoes off and take my shirt off and just throw me in a cage. You do that with animals [pause] you can't [pause] you don't do that with humans."

"I don't know no fighter in MMA that generated a total revenue in two fights, which only lasted one hour in two fights, generated a total revenue of two hundred and fifty million dollars. They aren't even on my level, at all.

"You must be running eight and nine miles for boxing you must be able to box not five rounds twelve, twelve. And it used to be fifteen... Now that got rounds now they got judges now they got cutmen. So once again MMA stole boxing's whole blue print and run with it."

"Like I said before, in boxing we know who is dominating, black fighters and Hispanic fighters is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating. So they had to go to something else and start something new."


I agree with Floyd for the most part on the last quote. Why is Nascar as popular as it is? Because America really loves cars doing laps around a track. Huh?...

hmm the Klits are not dominating,Pavlik has not dominated 160 that racist **** out of Mayweathers mouth just made me lose a lot of the respect i had for him.

[venerablefist]

lol, you should have said, "You dont have to COMPETE in mma your whole life to be good at it".

These guys are doing martial arts from when they were elementary kids. If not martial arts, then it's wrestling or boxing. Either way, they are training it just as much as boxers do for boxing.

But competing in it your whole life, no. You dont have to compete your whole life to be good at it. But they compensate for that by partaking in martial arts competitions(bjj tourneys, kyokushin karate tournys, muay thai comps, judo tournys) and wrestling tournaments. In boxing you pretty much have to compete in it for a long time before you get to the top.

ive watched a lot of fights and its easy to tell that they all didn't partake in martial arts tournaments i watched jake shields who has a great sub set but his striking is terrible i would bet all money i can out strike him any day of the week i know my tkd background would allow me to slaughter him and my speed is way over his

[MARKBNLV]

I see Floyd every Friday night at he Palms drinking beer

[venerablefist]

ive watched a lot of fights and its easy to tell that they all didn't partake in martial arts tournaments i watched jake shields who has a great sub set but his striking is terrible i would bet all money i can out strike him any day of the week i know my tkd background would allow me to slaughter him and my speed is way over his

oh i forgot pav wasn't dominating 160 he had a clear challenger who was an aremenian and 68 has no clear champion 75 Dawson and of course CW and Hw are dominated by whites

[Cadillac Man]

I think he's refering to the U.S. when he states White people guys. How many White-Americans excell at Boxing? Pavlik that is it. MMA/UFC , I think is bigger in the U.S. than in any other part of the world. So here it is mostly young white americans that are there fan base. Boxing here in the states is a ethnic older crowd.

The big problem is it takes a SPECIAL athlete to excell at multiple discplines. Like a Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders. Even if you a great athlete that doesn't mean you could just do another sport and excell. Micahel Jordan ****** at Golf and Baseball. That is why say Lesnar was a great collegiate Wrestler but he got cut from football. The guys stand-up is terrible. He is NOT a guy who is world-class at anything outside of wrestling. That is why MMA in my mind is a JOKE. You got 1 that was/is a great Wreslter or BJJ tryin to box or kickbox and it's ugly. Tom Brady is a great QB but could he play LB or WR? NO.