Prime Naseem Hamed vs Prime Marco Anthonio Barerra

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  • Pretty Boy32
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    #101
    Originally posted by BOOMbip
    The poll results are hilarious...
    I know its a joke

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    • IMDAZED
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      #102
      Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
      I know its a joke
      The whole thread is.

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      • NorvernRob
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        #103
        It's a waste of time, because the simple FACT is that if it Hamed was American he'd be doing much better in a poll on a mainly American site. People tend to vote for their countryman, in this case Barrera gets votes for 3 reasons.

        1) Quite a few of the genuine unbiased boxing fans think he would beat Hamed regardless of prime.

        2) Hamed is British, which means he is automatically disliked by a significant percentage of the posters on here. On a UK forum the poll would be the other way around. On a Mexican forum it would be 100% Barrera.

        3) Hamed was an arrogant so-and-so and a lot of people disliked him anyway and would never acknowledge how good he was.

        Maybe he would have beaten Barrera in his prime, maybe he wouldn't (we never found out because Barrera avoided him in his prime years).

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        • IMDAZED
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          #104
          Originally posted by NorvernRob
          It's a waste of time, because the simple FACT is that if it Hamed was American he'd be doing much better in a poll on a mainly American site. People tend to vote for their countryman, in this case Barrera gets votes for 3 reasons.

          1) Quite a few of the genuine unbiased boxing fans think he would beat Hamed regardless of prime.

          2) Hamed is British, which means he is automatically disliked by a significant percentage of the posters on here. On a UK forum the poll would be the other way around. On a Mexican forum it would be 100% Barrera.

          3) Hamed was an arrogant so-and-so and a lot of people disliked him anyway and would never acknowledge how good he was.

          Maybe he would have beaten Barrera in his prime, maybe he wouldn't (we never found out because Barrera avoided him in his prime years).
          Yes, their bias leads them to pick Barrera, the Mexican who doesn't speak English. No, it's not because Barrera has established credentials that make him an ATG, it's not because when the two actually fought he handed Hamed his sole loss in resounding fashion. That's can't be it. No, it's because Barrera is an AMERICAN.

          Who's really biased here? You've got to be some alt trying to make those overseas look bad.

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          • -MAKAVELLI-
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            #105
            prime vs prime, marco still wins

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            • Pretty Boy32
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              #106
              Originally posted by Makavelli
              prime vs prime, marco still wins
              People are intitled to there opinon,
              thats what this poll was made for.
              As a good poster and someone well up on there knowledge of boxing as Makavelli is i respect your opinon as i know there a genuine reason behind it,
              its users like "IMDAZED" who dont know nothing about boxing and give ****** reasons along with there answers, and run a mile when you beat them with facts that piss me off

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              • stefjonno1
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                #107
                Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
                Im not talking the none interested Hamed who met Barerra in 2001,
                but the man who had Brendan Ingle in his corner,


                Are you for real? In the uk people were talking about a Naz-Barrera fight for 5 years before it happend! what on earth makes you think Naz was not interested in the fight? Ofcourse he was interested, he just got a whippin. Ok maybe he was not as good as he had been but either was Barrera. When naz stepped up his caliber of opponents he struggled.



                Barrera wins whenever they fought.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
                  People are intitled to there opinon,
                  thats what this poll was made for.
                  As a good poster and someone well up on there knowledge of boxing as Makavelli is i respect your opinon as i know there a genuine reason behind it,
                  its users like "IMDAZED" who dont know nothing about boxing and give ****** reasons along with there answers, and run a mile when you beat them with facts that piss me off



                  i know you guys are in the middle of a heated 'discussion' PB32 and i havent read the back pages but i'll vouch bro...IMDAZED is solid from previous posts i've read...perhaps you guys can just agree to disagree?


                  as for my opinion on the matter, i think NAZ has become underrated throughout the years for a variety of reasons...some with legitimacy and some thru unfair bias


                  however, when gauging both fighters, and giving them a rating, i would clasify NAZ as a good, explosive fighter....he would get a B+ (not saying he is a B-level fighter) grade...Marco would get an A-....these grades, in my book, are based on in-ring accomplishments, style, effectiveness and competition


                  although one can argue that a prime Barrera was a bit more reckless and prone to getting tagged by one of NAZ's bombs, it still boils down to a very good fighter in NAZ vs an ATG in MAB

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                  • Pretty Boy32
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by stefjonno1
                    Are you for real? In the uk people were talking about a Naz-Barrera fight for 5 years before it happend! what on earth makes you think Naz was not interested in the fight? Ofcourse he was interested, he just got a whippin. Ok maybe he was not as good as he had been but either was Barrera. When naz stepped up his caliber of opponents he struggled.



                    Barrera wins whenever they fought.
                    Course he was interested in the fight u dont understand what im tryna say

                    He wasnt interested in training or preparing for his fights,
                    he just got obsessed with knocking people out and got so ****y he thought he didnt have to train to do so

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by pacman777
                      a fighters prime has everything to do with his age. you dont see a prime fighter in their 40's now do you? barrera was just too much for little nasseem to handle. no excuses



                      hamed i reckon was at his absolute best againts barrera. it was his biggest fight, he had to be in his best... we all know what happened next



                      no argument there



                      we all know




                      barrera ducked nobody... fact

                      hamed otoh openly ducked marquez... fact



                      dont be too defensive, we all know hamed was a great boxer... just not the better one
                      The only reason your praising Barrera so much is to make Pacquiaos victories over him seem more impressive. F**k off.

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