My Problem With The SMW Tourney...

[DC Fight Fan]

I agree with you a little bit. it would work out much better if they just went to single elimination, adding two fighters. they could have easily thrown in Bika, Andrade, or some other super middleweight that could be a dark horse that no one has heard of, just to fill in the gap.

they could still have multiple matchups between the guys even if they were eliminated, because they could go on to try and become the 3rd place winner...and maybe replace a finalist if one of the finalists has to pull out, for some reason. a mini tournameant in the bigger tournmeant.

BUT, having said that, I hardly consider it a problem. I mean, even if we only get half the fights, it would still be badass. almost a dream come true to see such a variety of fighters all pitted up against one another.

and Jermain Taylor has all rights to be in the tournameant. Froch is in the tournameant, and he was getting beaten pretty badly before the fantastic comeback. a recent loss does not disgrace you, especially one like that.

I LOVE this tournameant.

Okay my boxing friends. I will concede the JT point. Just add two others and make it 8 single elimination and much shorter.

My point is, and we all keep proving it, that this tourney is AWESOME for us but the sport needs an infusion of new fans and those fans will not watch a tourney that takes 2 years.

[DC Fight Fan]

Bute is the only one that can claim he should be in this tourney, over any of the Americans. Balzsay has beaten nobody, besides Inkin, who himself has beaten absolutely nobody. Andrade has been embarassed by Kessler and was lucky in the 12th vs. Bute (kind of how lucky Froch was vs. Taylor in the 12th). Bika just isn't that good. Whether it was the Calzaghe fight or the Bute fight, he disappears when it really matters.

Personally, I would have made it an 8-man tournament by adding Bute and Allan Green, and have it be single elimination...ELITE 8 style.

I like the idea of adding Bute and Green. I also would like to see Pavlik in ti maybe at 168.

[DrewWoodside]

While I think the tourney in concept is wonderful for the sport of boxing and is exactly what the doctor ordered as the multiple sanctioning bodies and weight classes are killing the sport.

BUT

the round robin format that will potentially take 2 years is a bad format and could possibly lose peoples excitement and interest. It won't lose our interest because we are the diehard fans but the goal should be to captivate the fringe fans, and i think 2 years could lose them.

I would like to see them add 2 fighters and go single elimination. A quadruple header on the first night. Then, 2 months later, the semis followed by the finals in 2 months. The whole tourney would be done in 6 months and they would never lose the excitement.

I also have a huge problem with Jermain Taylor being in this tourney. He just lost to Froch.

two more fighters and not guaranteeing every fighter 3 bouts is an excellent idea.

[Steak]

Okay my boxing friends. I will concede the JT point. Just add two others and make it 8 single elimination and much shorter.

My point is, and we all keep proving it, that this tourney is AWESOME for us but the sport needs an infusion of new fans and those fans will not watch a tourney that takes 2 years.

its nice for us to say, but its possible that Showtime did try to pull it off but ran out of options for top fighters. Im not sure, but I THINK they tried contact Bute for it, but he didnt agree to it...but I dont know honestly. which is surprising, considering Bute has been featured on Showtime a few times. I dunno.

and Im not sure they would try changing the tourney at this point. although it could be SLIGHTLY better set up, I sure as hell am not going to complain about a true blessing, haha.

oh man, if other weight classes follow suite and tried doing this....WOW. my head would explode. as a boxing fan, Id be in heaven!

but yea, I like your setup slightly better, but maybe the fighters like this version more. man Im excited.

[BMWM3P]

You are missing the point. This tourney is perfect for us fans who love boxing. I agree. But it will be too long for the causal fan to keep interested with. And fighters DO NOT need 4/5 months to prepare for fights. That is ridiculous. Boxing must captivate the casual fan in order to turn the casual fan into a diehard like us. A 2 year long tourney will not do that.

What's ridiculous is your idea of top guys like these fighting each other in two months. There are six men involved in this tournament these guys need time to rest, heal their injuries or cuts. You can't rush this, these are tough fights for everyone involved there are no tune ups. To get these fighters at their very best to fight these kinds of fights they need proper time to heal, rest and train.

And for the casual fan if he cannot keep interested, then *** them. There will be more casual fans to pick up along the way. What you are proposing is riciculous you want this perfect format to be dumbed down so people won't lose interest, *** that. The quality of these matchups will have people watching there's no need to dumb this down so they can get a few more viewers.

[D-MiZe]

They never approached, the only people they approached are the 6 people that are in this tournament.

The reason why Bute was never approached is because they don't want the Europeans to outweigh the Americans.

[boxaholic]

Your off on this 1. The reason these boxers signed on was because of the numerous fight deal. Styles make fight and each boxer brings something different to the table. Instead of having the 3 americans vs the 3 euro fighters we have a chance to see them fight each other.

[DC Fight Fan]

What's ridiculous is your idea of top guys like these fighting each other in two months. There are six men involved in this tournament these guys need time to rest, heal their injuries or cuts. You can't rush this, these are tough fights for everyone involved there are no tune ups. To get these fighters at their very best to fight these kinds of fights they need proper time to heal, rest and train.

And for the casual fan if he cannot keep interested, then *** them. There will be more casual fans to pick up along the way. What you are proposing is riciculous you want this perfect format to be dumbed down so people won't lose interest, *** that. The quality of these matchups will have people watching there's no need to dumb this down so they can get a few more viewers.

Spoken from a pure boxing diehard's point of view. Thanks for making my point for me.

Just screw the thousands upon thousands of potential future diehards for the sake of you. Glad you are not in charge of marketing anything.

[Steak]

an 8 man tourney would only need about a year to happen or less, from start to finish. they would even get 6 months between each event.

for example.
August 1st first event, 8 fighters, 4 fights. 4 are eliminated
February 1st second event, 4 fighters left, 2 fights. 2 are eliminated
August 1st third event, 2 fighters left, 1 fight. 1 champion.

surely 6 months is enough prep time. I mean, you could easily make it less time, and theyd be jsut fine. give them 4 months prep time instead, and its even more compact, and more than enough prep time.

I mean, that sounds legendary, unless Im being an idiot and my math is awful.

[BMWM3P]

Spoken from a pure boxing diehard's point of view. Thanks for making my point for me.

Just screw the thousands upon thousands of potential future diehards for the sake of you. Glad you are not in charge of marketing anything.

You are making dumb assumptions based on nothing but pure ignorant speculation. The people putting this together know a hell of a lot more than some nobody on the internet. They have researched this spent a lot of resources and time *****g this tournament together. Next time instead of putting thousands of man hours in and spending millions of dollars they should just call you and save themselves all this time, money and effort.

There's always some who thinks they can do something better. Instead of wasting your time on complaining and looking for faults, thank these people for having the foresight to make something like this happen.

By the way I'm not selling anything and for that matter neither are you and it looks af if the showtime people think exactly like me, lets thank God for that.

Como dicen en mi pais a este cabron si se lo meten grita y si se lo sacan llora.