Is Lennox Lewis the LAST GREAT HW we will see???

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  • Bobby Shaw
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    #71
    Originally posted by Demise
    Tyson Fury
    LOL but the miracles do happen.Who knows the boy could learn the basics and improve some time in the future but at the moment naaaaaaaaaaaa

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    • Benncollinsaad
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      #72
      I thought Dimitrenko might be the next big thing, but he obviously can't handle faster, smaller and skilled guys like Chambers. Ive never really been into giant heavyweights.
      Last edited by Benncollinsaad; 08-22-2009, 03:35 PM.

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      • Сливк.
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        #73
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
        not only americans see Leenox Lewis as "nothing special" their are lots of boxing fans world-wide who do not rate Lewis as an ATG ... take away Lewis defeat of Mike Tyson (who was 10-12yrs past his best fighting days) and Lewis never accomplished very much, Lewis was deamed to have been unlucky to only get a draw in his 1st fight against Evander Holyfield, yet Lewis was very fortunate to be given the decision in their return fight, almost every sports writer at ringside had Holyfield as a clear winner, Lewis then refused to fight a 3rd and deciding fight.. As Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world Lewis brought the sport into disrepute by refusing to fight the No1 contenders, claiming they did not deserve a shot at the title, Yet Chris Byrd & John Ruiz both beat Evander Holyfield far easier than what Lennox Lewis did, Byrd beat David Tua far easier than Lennox Lewis did.. Lewis was the only champion in history to be stripped` of every version of the title.. whether you think Lewis could or could not beat those contenders, that fact is Lewis himself did not feel he could have beaten them other-wise he would have fought them... i do not and never have gone along with the line Lewis kept spewing out that "Michael Grant is the more difficult opponent" ... Lewis sat ringside with Donald Trump at the Grant vs Golota fight and seen first-hand how Golota floored and exposed Grant as nothing more than a class C fighter, yet Lewis immediately signed to fight the exposed Grant rather than John Ruiz who was on a 5yrs win streak and had been No1 contender for over 18 months... Lennox Lewis career is littered with questionable incidents that fight-fans can call into question... I am British yet no-way is Lennox Lewis an ATG in my book and that is the same thought as most fight-fans i talk to
        Lennox Lewis beat the following

        Tony Tucker
        Frank Bruno
        Tommy Morrison
        Ray Mercer
        Oliver Mccall
        Andrew Golota
        Shannon Briggs
        Evander Holyfield
        Michael Grant
        David Tua
        Hasim Rahman
        Mike Tyson
        Vitali Klitschko

        He was a 3 time Heavyweight champion of the world, and beat everybody he ever faced(mccall and rahman in rematches). Rid**** Bowe blatantly ducked Lennox Lewis.

        It is aboslutley RIDICLOUS not to call him an atg, because He Is. without a shadow of doubt. He is a top 10 heavyweight of all time, most people I have seen also think he is a top 10 heavyweight of all time except for some americans.

        You are an idiot in truest sense of the word and you are either extremley biased against Lennox Lewis or you just dont know anything about boxing.
        Last edited by Сливк.; 08-22-2009, 03:37 PM.

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        • sonnyboyx2
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          #74
          Originally posted by Сливк.
          Lennox Lewis beat the following

          Tony Tucker
          Frank Bruno
          Tommy Morrison
          Ray Mercer
          Oliver Mccall
          Andrew Golota
          Shannon Briggs
          Evander Holyfield
          Michael Grant
          David Tua
          Hasim Rahman
          Mike Tyson
          Vitali Klitschko

          He was a 3 time Heavyweight champion of the world, and beat everybody he ever faced(mccall and rahman in rematches). Rid**** Bowe blatantly ducked Lennox Lewis.

          It is aboslutley RIDICLOUS not to call him an atg, because He Is. without a shadow of doubt. He is a top 10 heavyweight of all time, most people I have seen also think he is a top 10 heavyweight of all time except for some americans.

          You are an idiot in truest sense of the word and you are either extremley biased against Lennox Lewis or you just dont know anything about boxing.
          Lets take a close look at the men he beat.

          Tucker --- reformed Junkie
          Bruno -- gave Lewis a lesson at jabbing (unlucky loser)
          Morrison --- HIV positive and on the slide
          McCall --- only days out of Drug Rehab
          Golota --- Tranquilized in dressing room after panic attack
          Briggs --- Glass chinned Class C fighter
          Holyfield -- Yrs past his best and "robbed" in 2nd fight.
          Grant --- Class D ex basketball player
          Tua -- Fattest man to ever fight for the title
          Rahman --- Journeyman who poleaxed Lewis
          Tyson -- 12yrs since Douglas defeat, 6yrs since Holyfield
          Loss, only a shell of the former ATG
          Vitali --- "robbed due to deliberate headbutt"

          None of the above fights entitle Lennox Lewis to ATG status,
          Lewis deliberately `Priced himself out` of 2 fights against Rid**** Bowe

          i am far from being an `idiot` as you claim, i am a boxing fan who knows how Lennox Lewis career unfolded and not the ****** British fans who believed he was an ATG after he beat a shell of the former ATG Mike Tyson... we might as well call Danny Williams & Kevin McBride ATGs as they also beat the same version of Tyson that Lewis did
          Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 08-23-2009, 04:28 AM.

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          • Сливк.
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            #75
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Lets take a close look at the men he beat.

            Tucker --- reformed Junkie
            Bruno -- gave Lewis a lesson at jabbing (unlucky loser)
            Morrison --- HIV positive and on the slide
            McCall --- only days out of Drug Rehab
            Golota --- Tranquilized in dressing room after panic attack
            Briggs --- Glass chinned Class C fighter
            Holyfield -- Yrs past his best and "robbed" in 2nd fight.
            Grant --- Class D ex basketball player
            Tua -- Fattest man to ever fight for the title
            Rahman --- Journeyman who poleaxed Lewis
            Tyson -- 12yrs since Douglas defeat, 6yrs since Holyfield
            Loss, only a shell of the former ATG
            Vitali --- "robbed due to deliberate headbutt"

            None of the above fights entitle Lennox Lewis to ATG status,
            Lewis deliberately `Priced himself out` of 2 fights against Rid**** Bowe

            i am far from being an `idiot` as you claim, i am a boxing fan who knows how Lennox Lewis career unfolded and not the ****** British fans who believed he was an ATG after he beat a shell of the former ATG Mike Tyson... we might as well call Danny Williams & Kevin McBride ATGs as they also beat the same version of Tyson that Lewis did
            lmao at you trying to discredit all his wins, you are really pathetic.

            and yes Bowe did duck Lennox Lewis that's not even debatle, he threw away his title rather than face lennox.

            Lennox Lewis resume beats tyson and both the klits

            Mike Tyson: a light heavy spinks, frank bruno and an old holmes that came back after a 3 year lay off is his best wins.

            Vitali Klitschko: best win is samuel peter

            Wlad Klitschko: sultan ibragimov, ruslan chagaev and samuel peter lmao

            lol u try to hard to discredit all his wins, u can do that do anybody. you are frickin ridicilous. and extremely biased against Lennox Lewis. from now on I wont take any of your posts seriously because you are an obvious hater.
            Last edited by Сливк.; 08-23-2009, 05:52 AM.

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            • The_Visitation
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              #76
              Originally posted by Klitschko2009
              The Klitschko Brothers are GREAT Heavyweights
              Much as it pains me to say it, and as long as we forget all this 'Vitali-would-have-beat-if' Lewis crap, I have to agree.

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              • BEEHOP
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                #77
                Well he did stop a PRIME Vitali Klitschko, and he was about 50 when he did it.

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                • Mersey
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                  Lets take a close look at the men he beat.

                  Tucker --- reformed Junkie
                  Bruno -- gave Lewis a lesson at jabbing (unlucky loser)
                  Morrison --- HIV positive and on the slide
                  McCall --- only days out of Drug Rehab
                  Golota --- Tranquilized in dressing room after panic attack
                  Briggs --- Glass chinned Class C fighter
                  Holyfield -- Yrs past his best and "robbed" in 2nd fight.
                  Grant --- Class D ex basketball player
                  Tua -- Fattest man to ever fight for the title
                  Rahman --- Journeyman who poleaxed Lewis
                  Tyson -- 12yrs since Douglas defeat, 6yrs since Holyfield
                  Loss, only a shell of the former ATG
                  Vitali --- "robbed due to deliberate headbutt"

                  None of the above fights entitle Lennox Lewis to ATG status,
                  Lewis deliberately `Priced himself out` of 2 fights against Rid**** Bowe

                  i am far from being an `idiot` as you claim, i am a boxing fan who knows how Lennox Lewis career unfolded and not the ****** British fans who believed he was an ATG after he beat a shell of the former ATG Mike Tyson... we might as well call Danny Williams & Kevin McBride ATGs as they also beat the same version of Tyson that Lewis did
                  When I saw the title of this thread I thought to myself, Sonnybox will be in here talking about how rubbish Lennox Lewis was.

                  You're obviously a hater, which makes you fail to see he isn't a bad HW.

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #79
                    How can anyone use the Tyson and Holyfield being past their best as a stick to beat Lenny with, when its their fault (Holyfield, Tyson) that they had to fight him when they were past their best.

                    Way too much criticism of Lewis on this and other forums, when i first started posting in this section i took first glance at Merseyside's thread regarding Lennox and i assumed it was just to nuthug a British hero and overrate him, no offence intended Merseyside because you are a good guy, but after listening to other people's points of view on Lenny ive come to the conclusion that he (Merseyside) had been provoked into defending Lewis's honour because so many people under value his ability.

                    Props to Merseyside.

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