Do people look past James Toney's padded record?

[Deja_Vous]

yup... toney is skilled, but not good....... i think there is a differene dont u all?

Skilled but not good are the words of a fool...especially a fool with a quitter in his avi.

[The Drogba]

LOL @ Mexican talking about padded records. Have you not see JCC record

[liam_48@msn.com]

This thread is pointless. Lets look at the greatest's record (Sugar Ray Robinson)

Rudolph Bent 39-41-4
Peter Schmidt 22-25-7
Harvey McCullough 7-26-2
Neil Morrison 3-3-1
Harvey McCullough 7-25-2
Rocky Randell 78-53-14
Earl Bastings 10-10-3
Jimmy Beecham 40-30-3
Fabio Bettini 20-10-5
Jean Beltritti 6-1-0
Jean Baptiste Rolland 10-4-0
Jackie Cailleau 11-10-0
Johnny Angel 12-5-1
Clarence Riley 21-28-5
Gaylord Barnes 5-25-0
Armand Vanucci 18-5-2
Andre Davier 20-10-1
Emile Saerens 13-2-2
Fabio Bettini 18-7-3
Armand Vanucci 18-4-2
Maurice Rolbnet 0-0-0
Billy Thornton 0-0-0
Bernie Reynolds 0-0-0
Georges Estatoff 2-10-2
Bobby Lee 0-1-0
Tony Baldoni 24-10-1
Bob Young 18-8-1
Jean Wanes 6-23-4
Kid Marcel 22-22-3
Don Ellis 29-21-6
Holley Mims 18-7-4
Billy Brown 53-29-6
Cliff Beckett 15-15-3
Charley Dodson 40-29-3
Benny Evans 30-36-4
Cecil Hudson 59-30-4
Freddie Flores 21-38-10
Ossie Harris 41-46-6
Flashy Sebastian 20-14-2
Sammy Secreet 29-21-2
Freddie Wilson 11-24-0
Bernie Miller 45-17-3
Ossie Harris 38-35-6
Sidney Miller 11-24-5

[eazy_mas]

Guy fought 80 times. It's hard to do that without a bunch of padding nowadays.

yeah some years he was very active with more than 4 fight

[Dynamite Kid]

2002-08-18 Jason Robinson 16-2-0
2002-05-31 Michael Rush 23-5-1
2002-03-22 Sione Asipeli 17-3-2
2001-07-20 Wesley Martin 13-29-8
2001-03-29 Saul Montana 34-9-0
2000-11-03 Courtney Butler 20-4-2
2000-01-21 Terry McGroom 18-1-2
1999-10-08 Ramon Garbey 14-1-0
1999-07-30 Adolpho Washington 27-7-2
1999-03-07 Terry Porter 11-3-2
1997-06-14 Steve Little 24-14-2
1996-08-09 Duran Williams 16-1-1
1996-07-03 Charles Oliver 16-5-1
1996-05-14 Earl Butler 16-8-2
1996-03-01 Richard Mason 21-4-1
1995-12-08 Greg Everett 21-2-0
1995-09-09 Ernest Mateen 23-4-1

His record is very deceiving, i posted 17 gimme wins he got in the middle of his career all the way until he moved up to cruiser/heavyweight. Toney was a great fighter but i am just pointing out how no one really talks about how padded his 71 wins are.

Toney like to stay active he would fight anyone they put infront of him.

[eazy_mas]

anyway you rarely see a fighter fighting p4per every time.

as word goes some fighter were consider to be good but because of the lack publicty in them you quiet dont know the circumstance.

I remeber one of the fight James Toney had real problem with on of the fighter at SMW and that he moved up in weight.

[Chr0nic]

wht you expect dumbass? he has fought over 80 times, did you expect to see 20-30 HOF's and ATG's? esspecially in an era like this

idiot

[Davros?]

Toney has a very good record.

[TheGreatA]

This thread is pointless. Lets look at the greatest's record (Sugar Ray Robinson)

Rudolph Bent 39-41-4
Peter Schmidt 22-25-7
Harvey McCullough 7-26-2
Neil Morrison 3-3-1
Harvey McCullough 7-25-2
Rocky Randell 78-53-14
Earl Bastings 10-10-3
Jimmy Beecham 40-30-3
Fabio Bettini 20-10-5
Jean Beltritti 6-1-0
Jean Baptiste Rolland 10-4-0
Jackie Cailleau 11-10-0
Johnny Angel 12-5-1
Clarence Riley 21-28-5
Gaylord Barnes 5-25-0
Armand Vanucci 18-5-2
Andre Davier 20-10-1
Emile Saerens 13-2-2
Fabio Bettini 18-7-3
Armand Vanucci 18-4-2
Maurice Rolbnet 0-0-0
Billy Thornton 0-0-0
Bernie Reynolds 0-0-0
Georges Estatoff 2-10-2
Bobby Lee 0-1-0
Tony Baldoni 24-10-1
Bob Young 18-8-1
Jean Wanes 6-23-4
Kid Marcel 22-22-3
Don Ellis 29-21-6
Holley Mims 18-7-4
Billy Brown 53-29-6
Cliff Beckett 15-15-3
Charley Dodson 40-29-3
Benny Evans 30-36-4
Cecil Hudson 59-30-4
Freddie Flores 21-38-10
Ossie Harris 41-46-6
Flashy Sebastian 20-14-2
Sammy Secreet 29-21-2
Freddie Wilson 11-24-0
Bernie Miller 45-17-3
Ossie Harris 38-35-6
Sidney Miller 11-24-5

True but then again Robinson was over 40 years old when he fought most of them. Toney too fought the fighters that the thread starter mentioned during his 1994-2003 run when he had lost interest in boxing and its politics.

Holley Mims is a good example of records being deceiving. He was as tough as anyone Robinson ever fought.

Toney fought a guy named Sanderline Williams and had to go toe-to-toe with him for 10 rounds to pull out a draw. Williams' record was 24-11 but he had arguably beaten Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Nigel Benn...

[liam_48@msn.com]

True but then again Robinson was over 40 years old when he fought most of them. Toney too fought the fighters that the thread starter mentioned during his 1994-2003 run when he had lost interest in boxing and its politics.

Holley Mims is a good example of records being deceiving. He was as tough as anyone Robinson ever fought.

Toney fought a guy named Sanderline Williams and had to go toe-to-toe with him for 10 rounds to pull out a draw. Williams' record was 24-11 but he had arguably beaten Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Nigel Benn...

Ye he was a good fighter (Holley Mims) however he had no punching power and his claim to fame was a good fight against Rubin carter. Robinson had a cut over the eye which made the fight harder, he is probably better than a padding on a record though but, he wasn't a world beater by any stretch of the imagination.