Do people look past James Toney's padded record?

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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    #31
    James Toney has fought an IMPRESSIVE array of competition for almost 20 years now...padded record?? INSANITY

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    • vandiar
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      #32
      Toney "padded" his record for a reason. He was born to fight. He fought 6 times in 91, with 3 of them AFTER he fought Nunn, 5 times in 92, 6 times in 93, 5 times in 94 etc, 6 times in 95 etc. This willingness to fight so frequently is unheard of today. Toney just wanted to fight, whether it be against good comp. or against "bums". The guy just loves to fight period.

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      • Rockin'
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        #33
        In my opinion the thread starter is a joke for even trying to make an argument like this. Obviously looking to stir some **** up with rediculous statements. Sure he fought some guys that may not have been world beaters but think of this, how many of the better guys were looking to fight james. Not very many really. Fighters fight and James is a throw back to the old school where they fought often. Whether he could get the top guys in the ring or not is not his problem, the only problem that he had was the guy in the other corner when the bell rang to fight. He took care of business pretty damned good in my opinion.

        I guess we look past Ray Robinsons padded record aswell.

        I lmao at this ****ing fool..................Rockin'

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        • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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          #34
          Look at his record, even the high majority of his regular ten round fights came against guys who were solid amateurs, had enough pro fights, had skills, etc...I think sometimes people SERIOUSLY underestimate the skills and toughness of guys just because they dont have unbeaten records or because they arent big name fighters...

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            #35
            Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
            Look at his record, even the high majority of his regular ten round fights came against guys who were solid amateurs, had enough pro fights, had skills, etc...I think sometimes people SERIOUSLY underestimate the skills and toughness of guys just because they dont have unbeaten records or because they arent big name fighters...
            because they dont know the game, they know only what the announcers say or commentators say. Not even the tip of the ice berg.

            hey john, been watching alot of fights recently, older ones mainly. I saw you in the corner of an impressive guy, cant remember the name though of the guy, that you were training. Saw you commentating too, cool stuff man............Rockin'

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            • catalinul
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              #36
              When you have around 80 fights you are bound to have some gimmies but Toney's record is very good,he has very good names there.

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              • Toney Loc
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                #37
                Terrible thread.

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                • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                  #38
                  Rockin...it was probably Dawson, Oliver or Jose Rivera if it was somewhat recent..I think they showed Jose winning the WBA 154 title a couple weeks ago on ESPN Classic...

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                  • Brunswick Assassin
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by lightsoutrome
                    I am a big James Toney fan and followed him a long time since he knocked out Nunn. Toney record is not really padded at all. If anyone has followed his career he use to fight almost every 2 weeks back when he was middleweight just to stay shape. Alot of fighters do not do that now a days unless they are an up and coming fighter. Toney is a true throwback he did not care about waiting to defend his titles he got in there and fought because that is what he loves to do.
                    Good Post lightsoutrome. This is what I was going to say. James has done what only few have such as Harry Greb, Sam Langford, Mickey Walker and Ezzard Charles. James' motto is 'Anyone', 'Anytime', 'Anywhere!' Today's Champions are content with one fight every six months. What a load of rubbish! Toney was a poster boy for an active Champion and a throwback to the old days by fighting every month. Toney would fight every week if he had it his way.

                    Seen all of James' fights and just about all of his opponents were very tough opponents and came to fight. Doug De Witt, Iran Barkley, Mike Mc Callum, Freddie Delgado, Glenn Thomas, Adolpho Washington, Vassiliy Jirov, Reggie Johnson, Merqui Sosa, Sanderline Williams, Ricky Thomas, Tony Thornton, Steve Little, Ramon Garbay, Sioni Asipelli, Michael Rush, Drake Thadzi, Hasim Rahman, Evander Holyfield and Richard Mason are all reminiscent of tough opponents.

                    Toney took some tune up bouts after time off such as Saul Montana whom Toney fought during filming of Ali film. Alexander Gurov pulled out of eliminator fight with Toney in 2001 due to him not getting visa or having cold feet at the eleventh hour. So, Courtney Butler was put in as a last minute replacement.

                    James has been in with the best fighters in the World from 154 pounds all the way up to Heavyweight and has never been stopped and has softened up a lot of fighters over 20 years.
                    Last edited by Brunswick Assassin; 07-12-2009, 05:58 AM.

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                    • Roger Mellie
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by detluv
                      he has a padded record just like every other boxer

                      yet you forget to mention he fought

                      micheal nunn
                      mike muccluuam
                      iran barkly
                      roy jones
                      montel griffin
                      evander holyfeild
                      john luiz
                      sam peter
                      and haiasm raham

                      and out of all them one was out of prime (evander) and few aren't true elite fighter (griffn luiz and peter) but the rest was top class opponets
                      I would have said also that McCallum was way out of his prime as well.

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