Do people look past James Toney's padded record?

[lightsoutrome]

I am a big James Toney fan and followed him a long time since he knocked out Nunn. Toney record is not really padded at all. If anyone has followed his career he use to fight almost every 2 weeks back when he was middleweight just to stay shape. Alot of fighters do not do that now a days unless they are an up and coming fighter. Toney is a true throwback he did not care about waiting to defend his titles he got in there and fought because that is what he loves to do.

[TheGreatA]

He sure did. But I remember the fight before Jirov (at least I think it was the fight before Jirov), when he straight knocked some cat the **** out on ESPN, I believe. Beautiful shot and I remember thinking, this guy still has it!

That Jirov bout was simply amazing. To me, it solidifies that Toney was truly a great fighter. He never completely fulfilled his potential but is still a HOF'er and ATG IMO. It's kinda sad I don't see too many fighters today who have that old-school style. Then again, Toney was one of a kind in his own generation.

It was Jason Robinson he knocked out in a cruiserweight title eliminator.



Toney had some good performances during those 10 years as well as some bad ones. I believe Toney himself said that he lost interest in boxing due to all the politics.

[skullduggery]

yup... toney is skilled, but not good....... i think there is a differene dont u all?

[Left2body]

I think the worst culprit of the padded record has to be the Chavez family. Sr and Jr. No offense but Sr was a belt holder in his prime fighting guys 0-0, 4-3, 5-3, 1-0.

[Miburo]

He was just keeping active, almost no American fighter has had that many fights in more than a generation. The guy just loves fighting.

[TheGreatA]

I think the worst culprit of the padded record has to be the Chavez family. Sr and Jr. No offense but Sr was a belt holder in his prime fighting guys 0-0, 4-3, 5-3, 1-0.

Pernell Whitaker doesn't have a padded record by any means (he only had 46 fights, mostly against ranked opposition) but he too fought more than a few bums while reigning as champion.

[keepthemhandsup]

I think the worst culprit of the padded record has to be the Chavez family. Sr and Jr. No offense but Sr was a belt holder in his prime fighting guys 0-0, 4-3, 5-3, 1-0.

chavez jr is more padded than his daddy, least you can say his daddy was starting out or some ****. why chavez jr excuse...he got his dad last name and in boxing having a famous last name earns you a tittle shot.

guess matt vanda is an elite fighter

[IMDAZED]

It was Jason Robinson he knocked out in a cruiserweight title eliminator.



Toney had some good performances during those 10 years as well as some bad ones. I believe Toney himself said that he lost interest in boxing due to all the politics.

Yup thats it. Damn what a KO. And it was plenty obvious he was disinterested. Such a shame - compared to Jones & Hopkins, I thought he had more talent & skill than both. Funny how he finished with the bronze.

[Guest]

Yup thats it. Damn what a KO. And it was plenty obvious he was disinterested. Such a shame - compared to Jones & Hopkins, I thought he had more talent & skill than both. Funny how he finished with the bronze.

I remember watching that fight live. And it was pretty boring and an inside fight with not a ton of shots thrown. KO made that fight.

Toney looked spectacular in comparison when he fought Jirov.

[Derranged_]

He was just keeping active, almost no American fighter has had that many fights in more than a generation. The guy just loves fighting.

That's a good point. I rather a fighter stay active and fight lower tiered comp rather than stay inactive waiting for a big fight. Plus, I think staying active keeps a fighter on top of his game...