Juan Manuel Marquez is on the slide

[Dynamite Kid]

casamayor wasnt shot and old against katsidis but because he lost against jmm he is
jmm is the best at adapting to different styles and he showed that against diaz and casamayor
diaz is still young and of course had more energy and on top of that he is a pressure fighter with pretty good speed but jmm's experience and counter punching was the difference in the fight
now against manny well he WAS fighting one of the best boxers p4p

No he is shot because he looked shot, and because he has been in tough fights with Freitas,Corrales 3x and Castillo you could argue.

I think he was losing the Kats fight on the scorecards before he scored that KO.

[brently1979]

No he is shot because he looked shot, and because he has been in tough fights with Freitas,Corrales 3x and Castillo you could argue.

I think he was losing the Kats fight on the scorecards before he scored that KO.

He was behind.

[Dynamite Kid]

He was behind.

Thought so but i did not want to say just incase.

[BennyST]

You think that's bad? In 3 viewings, I could only give Marquez one round (the 8th). That's how silly and old he was being made to look on the night, before that fortunate KO.

I'm a fan, but that fight was really bad for him in every way. He did nothing right until the cut and backpedalled worse than Cotto (but not as fruity).

That's nearly the worst scoring for a fight I've seen. You gave him one round? One? After the fourth, he was basically starting to beat the ****e out of Diaz. Landing the cleaner, harder shots, pulling Diaz in for counters and taking him apart slowly. No offense, but you absolutely have no idea what you are looking at when boxers are fighting. No idea. None whatsoever.

One round?

Anyway, I don't really get this thread. What's the point of it? Diaz had hardly lost a fight as even the Campbell fight was very close and Casamayor, despite being old was still an amazing fighter and would have given anyone in that division hell. Marquez knocked them both out. I don't think there is a fighter around that would have done that to both of those guys, apart from him.

I still kind of agree, because he is on the slide. He is 36 years old after all and has been in a lot of hard fights. But, he's still better than everyone else.

[-Hyperion-]

anyone who thinks casamayold was outboxing marquez should not be taken seriously....

[aether]

jmm ain't slipping. he just faced quality comp. his style before he got exciting was safety first. now he's more willing to trade punches.

[Dynamite Kid]

anyone who thinks casamayold was outboxing marquez should not be taken seriously....

Well its been a long time since i saw it so you will have to forgive me.

two judges had the fight scored 95-95

Casa thrown 552, landed 122

Marquez thrown 516, landed 160


Look at the stats though, hardly points to a white wash for Marquez does it? Casa was giving him trouble early to what i remember, Marquez might have got to grips with him eventually but.........

[JM1]

Juan Manuel Marquez is on the slide.

Juan Diaz gave him hell and wobbled him.

77-75 for Marquez. Max DeLuca had it 77-75 for Diaz, and Levi Martinez had it 76-76. Yahoo! Sports had it 77-75 for Diaz



An old shot Casamayor was outboxing him early on.

Manny Pacquiao had him on the canvas AGAIN!! and i actually thought he won the fight this time, not to say i thought he lost the 1st but i thought this was more convincing.

marquez is like an engine, he needs to heat up then will outbox his opponent

[JM1]

Already making excuses for when Floyd beats him.
Sad.

no need for excuses cause floyd will never get credit for beating a lightweight champ

[RightCross94]

Juan Manuel Marquez is on the slide.

Juan Diaz gave him hell and wobbled him.

77-75 for Marquez. Max DeLuca had it 77-75 for Diaz, and Levi Martinez had it 76-76. Yahoo! Sports had it 77-75 for Diaz



An old shot Casamayor was outboxing him early on.

Manny Pacquiao had him on the canvas AGAIN!! and i actually thought he won the fight this time, not to say i thought he lost the 1st but i thought this was more convincing.

thats how marquez fights though, he's slow and shaky early on before he finds a rhythm and picks it up, diaz and casa took advantage of that early on, but once JMM warmed up they werent in there for long were they?