Originally posted by GRUSTLER
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Manny Pacquiao: "The Miguel Cotto Fight is 80% Done"
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Who invented FORUMS on websites? He must be a genius.
Writers write something. People don't read it. Fans post something to praise their favorite fighter then critisize other boxers. Then WAR!!!
Look at this article. It is supposed to be about the fight of Cotto and Pacquiao. It ended up with fans of Cotto and Floyd debating who's better and greater.
The editor must be smiling. No, grinning ear to ear. More visits.. More sponsors.. More money..
hehehe.....
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostCotto got his mouth bust open against Zab Judah and Cotto hit him
low 2x. Shane, Margarito and Clottey tagged him up. Cotto has a
good resume but against Comp on his level or above he has struggled.
We all agree that Floyd should fight the top guys now that he's back
but back then it didn't happen, get over it. Floyd is coming back
fighting Marquez after 2 years, lets see what he does after that.
Cotto came back after 7 months of losing to Margarito and fought
Jennings for a vacant WBO title that Williams left because he couldn't
get a fight? you don't see nothing wrong with that? Point is that
these guys are not perfect so to rag on one and give the other a pass
is not right and exact to me.
As far as you incredibly ****** argument that because someone beats some decisively and/or is in a real battle against them shouldn't matter that person still won. Just because someone has an easier time over someone else means nothing as to the fact that they are better. You have to look at the competition they've fought. As for the Judah win for Mayweather he looked good because he is THAT kind of fighter, a slick fighter who isn't open to get hit with punches and he counters mistakes. Cotto ISN'T that kind of fighter he puts pressure on you until you break they are completely different styles with different results. As for Cotto's tactics in the Judah fight, the first low blow was an accident you could see in the reply that his head got pushed down, the second one where he got busted open, that was definitely on purpose. I think it was more of a shock though because he had done it once already, but meh... Karma's a ***** I didn't really feel bad for Judah after what he did to Mayweather. I don't agree with Cotto doing it, but because he did it to Judah I didn't much care.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostAnyway, enough about Floyd and Cotto. Lets just hope that they
mix it up sometime next year. It's a possibility especially IF Cotto
beats Pacquiao, then I'm sure Floyd will want a piece of Cotto.
That 24/7 would be epic because them two have a history and need
to settle the score. If Pacquiao beats Cotto then I don't see Cotto
getting a fight with Floyd BUT I wouldn't mind seeing Cotto/Mosley 2
for all the marbles at 147.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI know Floyd has a lot to accomplish before he is considered an ATG,
that's not my gripe, my problem is that sometimes people forget
certain things about him when critiquing. Yeah, we know he
should have fought Cotto/Mosley/Clottey and so forth but times were
different back then and people were at different places in their
careers PLUS the politics of the business plays a major factor
in how fights get made, we are witnessing it now with Manny/Cotto,
Paul Williams, Clottey, Mosley and many others but all the weight
and pressure falls on Floyd and I don't understand how people continue
to bash this guy at any given moment because of 1 division?
He's been winning in 5. The comp he fought was good but he just
made them look easy so what. I just read so many post where
people twist facts, make things up and catch amnesia when it comes
to Floyd and if people want to discuss Boxing and what has happened
or is happening then lets discuss it instead of making things up.
Floyd career exceeds Cotto's right or wrong? Just because he didn't
fight all the Welters in the division YET does that make him less of
a great fighter? Cotto's career is only 2 divisions, so there is NO
question that he had to fight all them guys consistently.
My point is WW doesn't define who Floyd Mayweather Jr is as a fighter. Manny Pacquiao didn't even stay at 135 and ain't fighting at 140 so
does that make him any less of a great fighter? So what if he's fighting Cotto, Floyd is fighting Marquez....... but it's OK for Cotto to fight lil
Manny but not OK for Floyd to fight JMM? A guy who gave Pac fits
AND who is a lil taller? That's my problem on here. I agree that Floyd should fight some of the guys there but when talking about the man
I just don't think some of the analogies are exact or fair.
Mayweather has only beat 1 guy.
Mayweather has ducked 4 just in his DIVISION.
Cotto's beat the 4 people Mayweather refused to fight.
Cotto ducked the same opponent Mayweather has, and probably for the same reason not enough money.
You see, the argument holds 0 water. Cotto ducks one guy and he's a ***** for doing it, Mayweather ducks QUADRUPLE that in ONE division and its bad timing or he's proven himself enough already. Oh wait, Mayweahter has fought in 4 divisions so he's better than Cotto, but since Tyson and Ali fought in one they'll never be as good as someone who has fought in more weight classes. I guess Paq > than Maweather ten fold, he's fought in 6 and ducked MAYBE one person in Baby Bull diaz. And as for Paq not fighting at 140... First of all he did, against Hatton. Secondly, there is no money at 140, third at least he fought Hatton at 140 Mayweather also asked him to come up in weight and he fought DLH at 154, exactly how many fights has Floyd had at 147? 2? Baldomir and Judah? I'm sorry but that's not even the best in your division how are you supposed to say you are the best in the world?
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Originally posted by Gabilan View PostHilarious. Its unfortunate that you have to resort to ad hominems (look it up) instead of dealing with the argument at hand. I am very sorry to inform you that I am actually a published author. So if it is at all difficult for you to comprehend what I write, the fault most likely lies with your own deficiencies. Not that it really matters in a boxing thread. But since you brought it up I might as well point out what skills you should look to improve upon. See you around.
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