Manny Pacquiao: "The Miguel Cotto Fight is 80% Done"

[Osirus022]

can you see mp ****ing with cotto? Cotto is a beast, in his prime and a legit ww....... Who fought against other legit ww's and still won regardless of outcome! Mp is a hell of a fighter!!! But dlh fighting at 147 will shadow the (trinidad loss) now this makes mp is a legit ww? Cotto, is a whole different story! A treat for cotto for the hardwork!!! Pbf is next on the list!

co sign!!!!

[Osirus022]

Don't forget that you already bet all-in with me. Sorry but your candy will be mine.

LMAO dile ahi, im tryin to take some out of him too pero u beat me 2 it

[Osirus022]

The only reason why I bring up Mayweather on other threads is because
people start bashing him. I don't think it's fair or legit for people to
be able to disrespect a fighter on a different thread then when some
one comes and talks about it, is considered a lover, hugger and
so forth. If the bashing didn't start I would not have said nothing.
I mainly reply to posts that I don't feel is correct or agree with. Not
like on a Pacquiao thread I just bring up Floyd. Usually the people that
don't like him bring his name up first to trash his character.

But remember that this is BOXINGSCENE, anybody will bring up anybody even if the thread is FAR from them.

[prsi]

I already said that Miguel Cotto has the potential to become a HOF
BUT you should be agreeing that Miguel Cotto needs to win titles from
champions. If you look at it...... .why is Manny considered great?
Because he has moved through divisions defeated champions and
defended his titles, same as Floyd. These fighters became P4P the
best because they won belts by defeating opposition. Same with
Mosley and De La Hoya......I know that it may not mean anything
to you but if Cotto is to be considered in the HOF he has to do
a lot more. For Cotto to get a HOF look, he would potentially have
to beat Manny and Mosley (Again) for the WW title. Cotto NEEDS
to win a title not a Vacant one! Am I wrong for saying that?

If Manny Pacquiao would had gone thru all those divisions, fighting all the fighters that he has fought, but would had wone all the titles while being vacant titles at the moment, he would still be great as he is. Am i Wrong for saying that???

If PBF would had fought all the boxers and champion that he has beaten in vacant title fights too, He will still be as great as he is.
Am I wrong for saying that??

Once again it is who you fought, not how you won the titles. The great boxers careers are always measured by the quality of their oponents not how they won the titles. True that the quantity of title also influnce and add to you legacy but if you win 5 vacant titles (not saying Cotto has 5 title this is just an example) and defend and win them against the best (Mosley, Zab Judah, PBF, Pacquiao, Clottey, Margarito) does that mean the that if a class B boxer beat fighters like, Baldomir, Collazo, Quintana, Urkal for their current title, is greater than the one who has 5 vacant titles victories but the quality of his opponents are class B boxers. No way, that Class B fighter will need to defend his non-vacant title won against the best. Am I wrong for saying that???

I beleive I've proven my point on this matter. Pacquiao and PBF are great not because the won non-vacant titles, they are great because of all the titles that they have one and against who they have won and defended the titles.

[prsi]

Whether it's by KO or UD, Floyd has beaten 3 fighters before Cotto
fought them.
Does that matter?? PBF could fight JMM and lose will that mean that if Cotto fight JMM after he will lose also, or if PBF beats JMM does that mean that Cotto is guaranteed to beat JMM. Styles make fight and there could be a case that a boxer losses to Cotto but can beat his following opponents, now if you tell me that PBF beats the **** out of a boxer knocking him out while seriously injuring him, that can probably affect the boxers future fight but that was not the case against these boxer. On the contrary it was Cotto who knocked them out.

Take into consideration that Cotto wasn't ready for
Floyd at 140 and Hatton passed on the fight as well.
Last 4 fight for Cotto at 140 his oponents had ony 2 losses combined 100wins 2 lost. so it's not like Cotto was not fighting some of the best at the moement in that division and also keep in mind that Arum has always made the decision on who Cotto fight and by that time was when Arum and PBF were having their problems

Can't really
say Cotto had a better run at 140 also considering Cotto fought
more in the division but STILL wasn't ready for Floyd?

I never said he had or had not, a better run than PBF and probably Cotto was not ready for PBF we never know because they never fought.
However you must agree that Cotto in 2006 (last time he fought at 140) would had been a better oponent for PBF than Judah and Baldomir (both fought PBF in 2006) therefor he might have been ready, we will never know.
And Hatton doesn't even count because he came to USA to fight at 140 in 2007 when Cotto was already at 147. True that he made a 2006 fight against Collazo in USA at 147 but then he said it was not his division and went back down to 140 when Cotto had already left the division.

[GRUSTLER]

U want facts u ****ing man fan ok facts floyd struggled with Sosa, corley, Judah, castillo tapped that ass, baldomir fight was a fail people left b4 the fight was over u want anymore facts ok floyd told margarito he wud fight him, didn't happen, he's now ducking ssm cuz mosley...get this LOL is not undefeated lmfao. Dude I bet u wud let floyd teabag u LOL & what do I know ?I boxed 2 years AMA & have been into the sport since I can remember, & I am not a one man fan like u. U ****

How come you are so personal? You talking about me being a man
fan but your mad? What are you mad for? You a ***** ass fan.

[GRUSTLER]

I didn't even read you guys reply posts but I can tell that I
got ya feathers ruffled! Ha ha! Truth hurts........ Whatever fellas!
All good, I come with facts not my own emotional out look!
Enjoy Boxingscene!

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[youreffinkaput]

I didn't even read you guys reply posts but I can tell that I
got ya feathers ruffled! Ha ha! Truth hurts........ Whatever fellas!
All good, I come with facts not my own emotional out look!
Enjoy Boxingscene!

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actually prsi and boxeo_boricua made valid points.

your cop out isn't original in the least.

[Squabbles94806]

I still think Pacquiao should pass on this fight. Let Mosely and Cotto handle their business first. JMM, Floyd Jr. and Pacquiao are techincally the 3 kings of the 140-147 crowd. I consider Cotto, Mosely, Clottey the bigger side of 147, but the previous trio are what considered "mainstream boxing" at the moment.

I think Pacquiao shouldn't take this fight because Cotto is a big welterweight. Even if their fighting at 145 or somethin like that, Cotto still comes in damn near 160. Hopefully it should be a good fight.

What if Pacquiao won in a dominating fashion like this last two mega fights? That would be soo fcukin dope.

[don miguel]

I didn't even read you guys reply posts but I can tell that I
got ya feathers ruffled! Ha ha! Truth hurts........ Whatever fellas!
All good, I come with facts not my own emotional out look!
Enjoy Boxingscene!

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GRUST

You better read them. You have lots of posts to reply. One Cotto fan asked why Floyd chose Judah over Margarito when Margarito offered bigger guaranteed MONEY.

Good Luck!