Was Ali really the greatest?

[Jim Jeffries]

Why do you continue to keep repeating this urban myth of Foreman being "probably drugged"? As I thought we had established in another thread, Foreman being drugged is pure conjecture backed up by zero proof. And again to highlight the difference Vitali has a history of steroid abuse,fact because proven.

My father takes a similar steroid to keep from getting Gout. Damn juicers!

But yeah, there is no evidence that Foreman was drugged. He was not used to going past 3 or 4 rounds and he threw some serious leather in that fight. Ali just outsmarted him, plain and simple.

[GJC]

As opposed to others I actually WATCHED his fights. "Cassius, the cruiser" was fast and trim, "Ali, the whaley" was overweight and flatfooted.

How did you see the Chambers v Dimitrenko fight the other night?
Impossible surely that a 208lb 6'1 guy could beat an undefeated 6'7 250lb fighter?
Probably drugged?
Should Chambers be a cruiser? Seemed to be doing ok as a HW?

[DuttyAlacrity]

Ray Robinson was the greatest, Ali is the greatest heavyweight and his resume proves it. He beat a majority of the heavyweights that are ranked top 10 of all time, in the division.

I totally agree with this statement

[fightingfigs]

Was Ali really the greatest or like Floyd Mayweather,just great at convincing us that he was?Your thought...

He wasnt the greatest in my eyes but he definitely fought the greatest. The greatest is dr hayden kho. The man has numerous sex tapes and they just keep on coming.

[GJC]

My father takes a similar steroid to keep from getting Gout. Damn juicers!

But yeah, there is no evidence that Foreman was drugged. He was not used to going past 3 or 4 rounds and he threw some serious leather in that fight. Ali just outsmarted him, plain and simple.

My point was that he uses a quote from a broke alcoholic as "proof" to denigrate Ali. Whereas if we wanted to denigrate a boxers reputation with a broad sweep of soundbite there is more proof as such on Vitali.

[JACK D. RIPPER]

He might be one of the greatest HW's AT, but SRR is the greatest of all time period.

[boxing_great]

isn't joe Louis rated higher?

[JM1]

Was Ali really the greatest or like Floyd Mayweather,just great at convincing us that he was?Your thought...

im torn between ali and armstrong being the greatest

[Squabbles94806]

Was Ali really the greatest or like Floyd Mayweather,just great at convincing us that he was?Your thought...

I think he was one of the greats. But the more i look into is, Sugar Ray Robinson might be the greatest of all time. ALI tried to admit that in an interview i've seen, but it's pretty apparent SRR is the man.

Sugar Ray Robinson fought in a much tougher time in the boxing world as well as America. When i was younger i used to think like everyone else that ALI is the greatest of all time. But don't get it twisted, I'll always be a huge ALI fan. Sugar Ray Robinson was something extra-ordinary.

[joseph5620]

I know what you mean. I was recently rewatching ali/foreman an was laughing at Ali, 80% of the fight he was running for the ropes not because it was his plan (as he later claimed) but because he was scared ****less of Foreman's power, even when he blocked the punches. End of the day though, he won.

According to Ali's cheif sprring partner Larry Holmes, Ali trained for that fight using the ropes during sparring sessions. So yes, that was one of Ali's plans. I see your rep bar is already red which is no surprise after reading your ****** comments.