marvin hagler vs bernard hopkins in middleweight

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  • boxasmash
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    #81
    Originally posted by street bully
    No he would not. Listen man who the hell has Kessler beat that comes even close to Tarver? Andrate? Mundine? Kessler is so overrated it isn't even funny.

    Also youthink Tarver was fat? Lmao.
    tarver was fat against hopkins, he was in shocking shape. tarver has never impressed me. who has tarver beat as good as kessler? he beat a shot jones, so ****ing what? he even lost to a drained jones the first time.

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      #82
      Originally posted by boxasmash
      hahahahahahahaha
      What happens to Calzaghe when he gets caught in the first round and goes down this time when the guy he is facing is a hitter with one punch power?

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        #83
        Originally posted by boxasmash
        tarver was fat against hopkins, he was in shocking shape. tarver has never impressed me. who has tarver beat as good as kessler? he beat a shot jones, so ****ing what? he even lost to a drained jones the first time.
        He beat Jones who is worlds better. Call him shot (he wasn't) but I'll take a faded Jones over Mikkel Kessler. ****, I'll take Eric Harding over Kessler. But you probably never heard of him.

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          #84
          Originally posted by boxasmash
          tarver was fat against hopkins, he was in shocking shape. tarver has never impressed me. who has tarver beat as good as kessler? he beat a shot jones, so ****ing what? he even lost to a drained jones the first time.




          What an out of condition fighter.

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            #85
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            He beat Jones who is worlds better. Call him shot (he wasn't) but I'll take a faded Jones over Mikkel Kessler. ****, I'll take Eric Harding over Kessler. But you probably never heard of him.
            At least Harding proved himself, and his most notable accomplishments were wins, and not losses.

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              #86
              Originally posted by street bully
              At least Harding proved himself, and his most notable accomplishments were wins, and not losses.
              Yeah, and even if his accomplishments were losses, I'd take his performance against a prime Jones with one hand over Kessler's loss to Calzaghe.

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                #87
                Originally posted by street bully
                No he would not. Listen man who the hell has Kessler beat that comes even close to Tarver? Andrate? Mundine? Kessler is so overrated it isn't even funny.

                Also youthink Tarver was fat? Lmao.and the Tarver Hopkins fought was the Tarver that just destroyed Roy Jones, in 2 rounds who arguably never lost, while Calzaghe couldn't beat him without almost getting Koed himself 4 years and two KO losses later.
                tarver has more power than calzaghe that's why he won by ko, that doesnt make him better, hell tarver nearly lost the 3rd fight against jones.

                Originally posted by street bully
                What happens to Calzaghe when he gets caught in the first round and goes down this time when the guy he is facing is a hitter with one punch power?
                tarver is not as big as a puncher as you make out, why would a prime calzaghe be dropped by him?

                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                He beat Jones who is worlds better. Call him shot (he wasn't) but I'll take a faded Jones over Mikkel Kessler. ****, I'll take Eric Harding over Kessler. But you probably never heard of him.
                eric harding? not a chance mate

                Originally posted by street bully





                What an out of condition fighter.
                that's the fight against dawson, not hopkins. he was in terrible shape against hopkins.

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                  #88
                  tarver has more power than calzaghe that's why he won by ko, that doesnt make him better, hell tarver nearly lost the 3rd fight against jones.
                  That's true. I mean, he did lose about 3 rounds.

                  tarver is not as big as a puncher as you make out, why would a prime calzaghe be dropped by him?
                  Are you on crack?

                  eric harding? not a chance mate
                  Translation: eric harding? who's that?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    That's true. I mean, he did lose about 3 rounds.



                    Are you on crack?



                    Translation: eric harding? who's that?
                    arver did better against a close to Prime Jones, where very few gave him a chance, while Calzaghe almost got KTFO by a Jones nobody gave a chance and hadn't hurt anybody in years. Tarver would counter Calzaghe with a bomb like he always does, and Calzaghe would go down, but would he get up?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Duran was successful above 160? Leonard? Oh right...Lalonde (rolls eyes).

                      Yeah, Hagler's biggest wins came against smaller guys - he had quite an impressive reign, however, against some tough opposition but...so did Hopkins.

                      duran grabbed titles at 160 and 168 against moore (?) and barkley when it was thought he was finished...Lalonde floored srl before ray got him outta there...hearns grabbed titles at 160, 68 and at 175 against a prime virgil hill...

                      tito, de la doughboy, etc. don't compare to srl, duran, hearns, or even hagler's b-list comp. at 160 and above...again, hagler's biggest $ wins came smaller men, but true all-time greats...far stiffer comp than hopkins would ever face outside of jones and calzaghe, to which again, he lost to both...and look at that weak list of fighters hopkins rolled over to get 20 defenses against...robert allen 3 times, morrade (sp) hakkar? give me a break

                      man i can go on and on about hopkins overrated career..lol

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