tougher matchup for Floyd, Cotto or JMM??

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  • Danny VIP
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    #51
    Both fight all out and I think cotto has a bit of a better defence JMM with the better chin but either way it's a walk in the park for Floyd. This is coming from a big Cotto fan. Floyd's defence is to good.

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    • Horus
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      #52
      Originally posted by F-22 Raptor
      ******, cotto has acomplished more in his career than JMM. cotto is a better welterweight than floyd simply because cotto has beaten the very best, and FOUGHT the very best of the division:

      on welter alone:
      quintana
      urkal
      judah
      gomez
      mosley
      margarito
      clottey


      WOW, now that is an outstanding resume and it
      s just on 147! he defended his belt many times at 140! now dont come with that "vacant" belt bull**** because fact is he was supposed to fight champions many times but the politics that have ruined the sport got into the way! COTTO = better wins than floyd, plain and simple.
      How many lineal championships have cotto won?
      how many ring belts have cotto won?
      how many divisions has cotto been in?

      Who has won the most vacant titles in the modern era of boxing?
      need i continue?

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      • F-22 Raptor
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        #53
        Originally posted by Horus
        Can you explain to me how stylistically Cotto is a tougher fight for Mayweather rather than JMM...

        when stylistically JMM does everything better than Cotto..

        thats all i want to know....



        how does refurnishing boats make a good investment? your a ******.

        Go to that thread...and figure it out
        dude cotto HITS harder than JMM, he's a BIGGER guy, his YOUNG, on his PRIME, hits hard to the body! and cotto is not a counterpuncher..how do you figure a counterpuncher vs counterpuncher is better than an offensive fighter against a defensive one. COTTO can catch floyd at the ropes and hurt floyd to the body if he tries to lean back. HE is no oscar and he's no hatton. Floyd has been hurt against corley, that even though hes a bum, he also hurt cotto, floyd really hasn't been tested against a prime ( in the same weightclass than him! HATTON was a JR welterweight that can't fight at 147 which can be proven with his stinker fights at the weight and hes always been overrated, only reason floyd fought him was that he sells tickets, ) something floyd can't do ) PRIME dangerous hitter like miguel, that's just a fact right there for you. and fact, the guys that have been beaten by floyd, have been destroyed by miguel, that's just another fact for you right there. cotto is more dangerous than JMM dude, but your a fanboy that if floyd wuld have decided to fight collazo or berto or cintron or any of those bums you would come up with excuses saying why their more worthy than miguel.

        your just butthurt that cotto is going to steal floyd's glory by beating pacquiao first.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #54
          Originally posted by BlackSilk
          I wounder why we didn't see---(Cotto has never had problems with defensive fighters,he has the power,he has the jab,size,counterpunching ability and everything else )--->all that against Clottey? A long night, Cotto has the stamina issure not Floyd. (Marathon) Wasn't that what Cotto doing in the Rito/Mosley/Clottey fight? Lol, you got to be kidding me, unless you was looking at a different Cotto fight. Hmmmmm
          What are u talking about,I said Clottey and Margarito are big pressure fighters!!I said if floyd cant beat the stamina out of Cotto,relating to floyd running throwing pittypat blows as opposed to a pressure fighter walking Cotto down!!Try reading and understanding buddy!!

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          • JACK D. RIPPER
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            #55
            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            Cotto. It's not debatable.
            JMM is more skilled, faster, smarter and better overall than Cotto. Its totally debatable.

            After JMM beats his ass in Sept. all this Floyd/Cotto will be a moot point anyway.

            WAR DINAMITA PINCHE CABRONES.

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            • kadyo's
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              #56
              Mayweather was retirement was based on the assumption that he didn't want to fight top welters years ago. Now on his comeback fight, he's fighting a natural featherweight so it's obvious which is the tougher fight. It doesn't mean that he would lose his O on one of the two it simply means that floyd himself is aware that top welters are tough fight so he'd rather fight at 154 or 143 rather than risk his O at 147 LOL.

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              • shogunn
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                #57
                Originally posted by Horus
                where is the thread starter....how is the thread starter stop posting in his thread...when questions need to be answered...

                I just need for somebody to explain to me how stylistically Cotto is a tougher fight for Mayweather rather than JMM...

                when stylistically JMM does everything better than Cotto!
                stylistically? I asked who's a tougher matchup, not who's a better matchup style wise.

                Let me explain something to you since I assumed anyone with a brain would understand that easily Cotto is the harder matchup.



                JMM a LIGHTWEIGHT is coming from 135, he's never even fought at 140, but he's going to fight Mayweather at 144? Right there is already an advantage for Floyd, who's last fights were at 147, 154. Who knows what itll be at fight night.

                Cotto at 147 isnt a chump like you believe. Cotto only has 1 loss against Margarito, and alot of people are calling that loss an asterik.

                Again, Cotto is 147. A Welterweight match. A fight at 147 is tougher than a catchweight 144 against the much smaller JMM. Stylistically it isnt going to matter, as JMM isnt worlds better than Cotto P4P, maybe just slightly.

                not to Diss JMM, but he did lose to Chris John. How does that make him a much better fighter than Cotto? Especially in a straight up match. cotto nears in 160 fight night, JMM, 144 -146, TOPS. This isnt even mentioning how JMM gets knocked down by lower class weights and Cotto has a pretty good chin, at WELTERWEIGHT.


                This shouldnt even be a debate. Look at the poll. I still cant believe anyone is actually trying to argue this.

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                • Mojita
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                  #58
                  To Horus and others :

                  Cotto is the tougher fight, point blank. Why? Easy and simple as this.

                  Yes, JMM is P4P better than Cotto and skill-set probably tops Cotto. Horus says "OMGZ SKILLZ PAYZ BILLZ" yes Horus, skills pay bills - BUT Marquez's skill pays his bills in lower weight classes, SON. Cotto is in the weight-class Floyd is, and Cotto is still young.

                  Marquez is aged, and yes still a tough fighter but MOVING up in weight so late, so please explain to me how JMM is tougher than Cotto at this stage? JMM is unproven at 140+ and aged, so he has disadvantages down the list, alas Cotto is a champion at 147 and we seen what he can do.

                  I don't see how many can debate this, Cotto is tougher fight - anyone who disagrees needs to go back to common sense school.

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                  • F-22 Raptor
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    How many lineal championships have cotto won?
                    how many ring belts have cotto won?
                    how many divisions has cotto been in?

                    Who has won the most vacant titles in the modern era of boxing?
                    need i continue?
                    ring belts are BULL****, and floyd got lucky that the "lineal" champion was BALDOMIR, a JOKE, that got the "lineal" from JUDAH. OMG JUDAH AND BALDOMIR WOW TWO ****ing piece of **** bums. floyd couln't take out judah, or corley, cotto could. fact of the matter is that cotto was supposed to tbe WBO/IBF champion right now but you know that the IBF really has lost all credibility with his bull**** politics as of lately. fact : floyd "retired" thinking he could have made an amazing comeback and be a blockbuster hit, but it failed miserably. Horus, i know your a floyd **** rider, but you have to admit that Floyd would be given so much more credit if he would have come back and said " ok i want to retake the WBC belt and fight berto" even though berto is not in the same elite level than cotto or mosley, or clottey or margarito, he at least is a legit welter, not a lightweight. floyd takes no risk, that's why he is going to remain 48 ATG if he keeps the bitching up.

                    make no mistake, i think floyd beats anybody in this time and age, except paul williams because of the style but it just pisses me off that he has fought bums all along and just gotten infamous because of the money throwing persona. and still can't sell 3k tickets at the mgm grand. cotto fills out msg.

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                    • F-22 Raptor
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by shogunn
                      stylistically? I asked who's a tougher matchup, not who's a better matchup style wise.

                      Let me explain something to you since I assumed anyone with a brain would understand that easily Cotto is the harder matchup.



                      JMM a LIGHTWEIGHT is coming from 135, he's never even fought at 140, but he's going to fight Mayweather at 144? Right there is already an advantage for Floyd, who's last fights were at 147, 154. Who knows what itll be at fight night.

                      Cotto at 147 isnt a chump like you believe. Cotto only has 1 loss against Margarito, and alot of people are calling that loss an asterik.

                      Again, Cotto is 147. A Welterweight match. A fight at 147 is tougher than a catchweight 144 against the much smaller JMM. Stylistically it isnt going to matter, as JMM isnt worlds better than Cotto P4P, maybe just slightly.

                      not to Diss JMM, but he did lose to Chris John. How does that make him a much better fighter than Cotto? Especially in a straight up match. cotto nears in 160 fight night, JMM, 144 -146, TOPS. This isnt even mentioning how JMM gets knocked down by lower class weights and Cotto has a pretty good chin, at WELTERWEIGHT.


                      This shouldnt even be a debate. Look at the poll. I still cant believe anyone is actually trying to argue this.
                      shogun you just used common sense, that dont work with horus, you just made him cry.

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