At 24-0 Cotto was in a shootout similar to the one Victor was in this Saturday...

[PRacrePerAcre1]

it was the same "no" head movement when ortiz quit and when morales didn't want anymore in the 3rd fight w/ pac.

Morales didn't make the count Cotto did and he was ready to go saying he quit is unfair to a fighter like Cotto.

[PACBOY]

1 punch knock-Out Power...


Torres>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Margarito.

Torres puts people out or drops them with one clean shot.

Margarito uses his incredible work rate and thudding almost concrete like punches to slowly break down his opponents over a long period of time...Usally begins sometime around the 6th round(for whatever reason) anyway Margarito is to slow a puncher to ever create the type of K.O punch that Torres can deliver.

That's just PBCS broseph.

Torres KOS BUMS WHat part of that are you having a problem with???

[Pullcounter]

It's ridiculous if you look at the video Cotto's uncle is inside of the ring and then Cotto turns his face to them. If he had quit he would have told the ref that he didnt want to continue. I'm sure you've seen boxers go down and shake their heads.

cotto knows ricans won't love him anymore if he overtly quits, but you can see by him shaking his head he didn't want anymore.

Please man Ortiz walked away from the ref and I believe he even waved his hand. No comparison man. Cotto got up and was ready to fight.

then why'd he take another knee? margo wasn't going to stop coming... cotto knew what was up.

I usually don't argue these ****** ass points because it was over a year ago and Cotto has got himself back at the top of the WW division and who really cares...

But for arguments sake...

Pullcounter,

By your interpretation of the events you see Cotto getting up from the knee and shaking his head no at his corner as a sign that he didn't want to continue.

That's fine but remember that's just your interpretation of the events.

How about this.

Cotto gets up from the canvas and see's his Uncle/Trainer Evangelista getting up on the ring about to throw in the towel...Cotto looks at his Trainer and shakes his head no...Don't stop the fight.


Both scenarios can be taken away from the video.

and unless you have that Sookie from TrueBlood mind reading power and where at the fight close enough to Cotto to use it.


Your argument is just as good as anybody's...Not very good at all.


BOOM.

did malignaggi shake his head "no" at mcgirt in the hatton fight? malignaggi wasn't even looking at mcgirt, he was still fight.

cotto quit, sorry, but its true... he quit like ortiz.

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Torres KOS BUMS WHat part of that are you having a problem with???

Weather a boxer has a good chin has very little to do with his overall skill...

So let me get this straight...Torres's Power fluctuates from Superb to ****...depending on the Caliber of opposition he's facing?


Dude your a ******o.


Kendall Holt isn't a bum.

[Pullcounter]

Morales didn't make the count Cotto did and he was ready to go saying he quit is unfair to a fighter like Cotto.

cotto could've continued but he signaled his corner to stop the fight.

when it was stopped he didn't even complain. Malignaggi was complaining big time when mcgirt stopped the hatton fight, but miguel didn't say jack.

[PACBOY]

Well since you are the one that knows he quit explain it to me to prove you are not an idiot, good luck, cause he didn't quit IDIOT. If you want to see an example of quitting look at Ortiz and Lontchi and I'm not even mad at Ortiz either, he took tremendous punishment. Lontchi....well he's a *****. Let's see what you got man prove that Cotto quit.

Duhhh... Stopped throwing punches while going backwards to the corner dropping to his knee without being hit with a punch and looking at his corner shaking his head... He didnt get up on his own until the fight was waved off,and he didnt NEVER argue the stoppage! Now stop talking you make yourself look dumber and dumber when you do. If thats not quitting You have serious mental issues and you may need to adjust your meds. If you need Video of this I can get it for you...I know you probably didnt see the fight under that rock you've been living under.

[PRacrePerAcre1]

cotto knows ricans won't love him anymore if he overtly quits, but you can see by him shaking his head he didn't want anymore.


then why'd he take another knee? margo wasn't going to stop coming... cotto knew what was up.



did malignaggi shake his head "no" at mcgirt in the hatton fight? malignaggi wasn't even looking at mcgirt, he was still fight.

cotto quit, sorry, but its true... he quit like ortiz.

So how is it different for Morales and the Mexican population? Do they accept Morales quitting?

[PRacrePerAcre1]

cotto could've continued but he signaled his corner to stop the fight.

when it was stopped he didn't even complain. Malignaggi was complaining big time when mcgirt stopped the hatton fight, but miguel didn't say jack.

Many boxers "complain" to save face. I've seen jokers complaining about a stoppage when it was obvious they didn't want to continue.

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did malignaggi shake his head "no" at mcgirt in the hatton fight? malignaggi wasn't even looking at mcgirt, he was still fight.

cotto quit, sorry, but its true... he quit like ortiz.

Once again just your personal interpretation of the events.

One situation has nothing to do with the other...People's behave differently in different situations.

To many variables to really judge and compare the 2 situations.


A head shake can mean many different things to different people.

I've seen fighters get dropped and shake there head in anger at themselves for being dropped or caught with a punch(Clottey)

I've seen them shake there heads as if to show there opponents that they are unfazed.(Clottey)

I've seen fighters shake there head at a corner for them not to stop the fight.(Cotto)

and I've seen fighter shake there head no at the ref as to indicate they no longer with to continue fighting.(Ortiz)


Anyway back to my original point...It's all about your own personal perspective or what you decided in your own mind is the truth for you...Doesn't make it a reality outside of your head though does it.

[AllEyesOpen]

Against Colombian ****er Ricardo Torres. Cotto was dropped and hurt big time, early in the fight. Cotto got up, gathered himself and found a way to stop Torres and win the fight.

This weekend, Victor Ortiz was 24-1 and found himself in a FIGHT, against a Ricardo Torres like puncher. He got dropped and hurt, collected himself and appearred to be able to find success in trading with Maidana. However, when the going got tough later in the fight, Ortiz seemed to want to "get going".

I've talked a lot of **** about Miguel quitting against Margarito, but in that fight with Torres, Cotto more than proved his worth. Ortiz on the other hand looked like he lost all interest in boxing when things weren't going his way.

I know that alot of people are giving Ortiz **** for not continuing that fight but the fact of the matter was that his right eye was cut and his left eye was swelling, even if he had continued, it would have stopped or have been stopped eventually. I just thought it was ****ed up that Ortiz said he had to evaluate his career cause he didn't think he deserved that kind of damage. If your a boxer you better expect that kind of a war every time.