Who were the meanest fighters?

[talip bin osman]

I like PWill, but he doesn't strike me as mean like a Duran or A young Tyson. Those guys could be described as cruel when in the ring.

duran took delight punishing ray leonard in their 1st fight...

but it seems to me the fight he really enjoyed punishing his foe was the davey moore fight... it seemed to me like he was like ****in the miss universe that night... he was obviously enjoying every minute of it...

tony ayala deserves a shout about being mean too IMO...

as for the more recent fighters that come to my mind are erik morales & vic darchinyan...

[JAB5239]

Homie why do you think he avoided Pryor so much.

I don't think he avoided Pryor at all. Aaron simply didn't bring enough to the table. I've always held a firm belief Pryor may haver been able to force this fight had he moved up and beat a couple of decent opponents ina semi impresive fashion. Why he chose not to, I have no idea. But can't see how this can be called ducking or even avoiding under the circumstances.

[Thread Stealer]

Homie why do you think he avoided Pryor so much.

Why do you think Pryor turned down half a million to fight Leonard, when Pryor had made like $40,000 a year earlier to win the title, and had just missed out on $250,000 when his unification bout with Mamby had fallen apart?

[JAB5239]

duran took delight punishing ray leonard in their 1st fight...

but it seems to me the fight he really enjoyed punishing his foe was the davey moore fight... it seemed to me like he was like ****in the miss universe that night... he was obviously enjoying every minute of it...

tony ayala deserves a shout about being mean too IMO...

as for the more recent fighters that come to my mind are erik morales & vic darchinyan...

Good call!! I couldn't agree more!

[JAB5239]

Why do you think Pryor turned down half a million to fight Leonard, when Pryor had made like $40,000 a year earlier to win the title, and had just missed out on $250,000 when his unification bout with Mamby had fallen apart?

Meant to ask you about this earlier. When did Ray make this offer, I was never aware of it before now?

[JAB5239]

I agree he's over hyped but I've never seen him lose in a "sparring" match. He roughs everyone up.

He leaves his chin open so a good sharp shooter should be able to KO him, but in terms of sparring he pounds his opponents. He and Urbano Antillon spar (it's on youtube) He is roughing up Antillon pretty easily.

Open and up in the air. That was he first thing I noticed about him.

[mickey malone]

There's loads...

Jack Dempsey
Tony Zale
Sonny Liston
Mike Tyson
Roberto Duran
Vinny Pazienza
Marvin Hagler
Nigel Benn
Aaron Pryor
Sot Chitalada
Jeff Fenech
Angel Manfredy
Jake LaMotta
Tony Ayala
All of the Hiltons & many more..

[JAB5239]

Emile Griffith was probably one of the nicest guys to ever set foot in the ring, but his beating and subequent killing of Benny Paret was one of the coldest things I've ever seen take place between the ropes.

[Thread Stealer]

Meant to ask you about this earlier. When did Ray make this offer, I was never aware of it before now?

I read about it in a Sports Illustrated Article entitled "The Champion of Confusion". You can find it on a google search if you want.

It talks about his personal and professional problems and how some of the big fights fell through. He ended up getting shot by his wife which messed up a unification bout with Mamby, wasn't happy with $500k for a SRL fight, managerial issues screwed up a Duran bout. His manager also got arrested for embezzlement which didn't help his career.

[JAB5239]

I read about it in a Sports Illustrated Article entitled "The Champion of Confusion". You can find it on a google search if you want.

It talks about his personal and professional problems and how some of the big fights fell through. He ended up getting shot by his wife which messed up a unification bout with Mamby, wasn't happy with $500k for a SRL fight, managerial issues screwed up a Duran bout. His manager also got arrested for embezzlement which didn't help his career.

Thanks for that info, I appreciate it.