2 Reasons why Mosley is DEAD WRONG

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  • F-22 Raptor
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    #31
    Originally posted by Infern0
    Want to know the FACTS do you?

    Ring Ratings:

    Number ONE Mosley

    Number TWO Cotto

    Nimber of times KTFO, Mosley ZERO, Cotto ONE
    Whoaaaaaa. The ring has lost credibilty really, specially with taking cotto down in the p4p list after beating a really tough welterweight "because he didn't look good beating him" who the f looks good against clottey?

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    • fightingfigs
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      #32
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      Shane is a nice guy, but he's totally off base in his remarks about Cotto-Pac, and here's two major reasons why.......

      1. He's complaining about Cotto-Pac being an "in-house" fight by Top Rank. That's pretty hypocritical coming from a GBP partner, considering GBP does more "in-house" fights than anyone in the sport today. Examples....

      Diaz vs. Katsidis, and JMM
      Casamayor vs. Santa Cruz, Katsidis, and JMM
      JMM vs. Diaz, Casamayor, Barerra, and Juarez
      And thats just at lightweight!!

      Besides, 4 of Pac's last 5 opponents have been GBP fighters. Shane's "in-house" complaint is ridiculous.

      2. Shane is calling for Top Rank to make Shane vs. Pac. Now if he was calling for Top Rank to make Shane vs. Cotto, his argument would have more teeth. But he's not. Instead of trying to make the fight against the guy who beat him, he is just mad that Cotto is getting the payday that he so desperately wants.
      I have to admit if GBP owns all those fighters, then GBP has the cream of the crop at lightweight.

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      • F-22 Raptor
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        #33
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        Heres some more facts, since we are in a fact sharing mood here......

        Losses: Shane: FIVE
        Cotto: ONE

        Next Opponent: Cotto: Pac
        Shane: None

        I'm too lazy to google ticket sales figures for both guys, but I'd bet there are some pretty interesting facts there too.....lol
        But we can agree that he didn't sell staples center, it was clearly a margarito crowd. Cotto deserves the Pacquiao fight simply because he has beaten top welters, mosley and clottey

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        • !! Shawn
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          #34
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          Also you are being extremely arrogant with what you posted here. What you are saying is that THAT is the way YOU saw it, and anyone who disgrees with you is wrong. Well here's a newsflash for you. People disagree on fight results all the time!! Just because YOU thought it was a draw, doesnt mean that EVERYONE ELSE thinks that. And saying they "gave it" to Cotto is just ******. You say the fight was a draw, correct?? Well 2 judges had it 115-113 cotto. That means they disagreed with you about ONE ROUND. So because they disagreed with you about ONE ROUND, then there must be a big conspiracy because Cotto is "where the money is"? Here's a more likely scenario. Perhaps YOU were one round off on YOUR scorecard. But no, I'm sure that is not possible. lolol
          Which is the point I was making. Just because the judges said Cotto won, doesn't make him a better fighter, or more deserving of a fight with Pacman especially considering how competitive Cotto Mosley was.

          One judge scored Capbell v. Diaz for Diaz, that doesn't mean Diaz won.

          Park Si Hun beat Roy Jones Jr. at the Olympics... if you ask the judges. Your argument is that because the Judges say Cotto won, Cotto will awlays be the superior fighter, and the more deserving fighter, until Mosley secures a rematch, and beats him.

          That is ******, and you know it.

          You also know Arum is never going to put Cotto in there with Mosley again, especially after what he did to Margarito.

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          • NakiFan
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            #35
            Yeah, Ok so shane has 5 losses, IN LIKE 20 MORE FIGHTS AND TEN MORE YEARS LMAO. AND they are only decision losses to Forrest and Winky lmao!

            Mosley was P4P number 1 two years running, he has wins over prime DLH, he is more impressive lately!

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            • !! Shawn
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              #36
              Originally posted by Infern0
              Yeah, Ok so shane has 5 losses, IN LIKE 20 MORE FIGHTS AND TEN MORE YEARS LMAO. AND they are only decision losses to Forrest and Winky lmao!

              Mosley was P4P number 1 two years running, he has wins over prime DLH, he is more impressive lately!
              You forget to add moving up in weight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                Which is the point I was making. Just because the judges said Cotto won, doesn't make him a better fighter, or more deserving of a fight with Pacman especially considering how competitive Cotto Mosley was.

                One judge scored Capbell v. Diaz for Diaz, that doesn't mean Diaz won.

                Park Si Hun beat Roy Jones Jr. at the Olympics... if you ask the judges. Your argument is that because the Judges say Cotto won, Cotto will awlays be the superior fighter, and the more deserving fighter, until Mosley secures a rematch, and beats him.

                That is ******, and you know it.

                You also know Arum is never going to put Cotto in there with Mosley again, especially after what he did to Margarito.
                Lets get one thing straight. I never once said Cotto "deserves" it more, or anything of the sort. Personally, I think EITHER Cotto or Shane fighting Pac are equally credible, or equally ******ed, depending on your perspective.

                The whole point of this thread was not to say Cotto is somehow more credible than Shane. The point of this thread was to point out how absurd it is for Shane to cry about it, for the reasons I illustrated in the 1st post.

                I personally think catchweights in title fights are horse****. Will I still watch it? Of course.

                But now I regret making this thread in the first place, because now it seems as I am defending Cotto or something, which I'm not. I have no dog in this fight. I just think Shane whining about it is hypocritical and ridiculous, especially since he appearantly has no interest in rematching Cotto, which is the ONE fight he SHOULD be seeking.......
                Last edited by OnePunch; 06-20-2009, 02:11 AM.

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                  #38
                  ^^^^^^^^^

                  Yeah excactly, lets see how current Cotto does against prime forrest and winky at super welter lmao

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                  • !! Shawn
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    Lets get one thing straight. I never once said Cotto "deserves" it more, or anything of the sort. Personally, I think EITHER Cotto or Shane fighting Pac are equally credible, or equally ******ed, depending on your perspective.

                    The whole point of this thread was not to say Cotto is somehow more credible than Shane. The point of this thread was to point out how absurd it is for Shane to cry about it, for the reasons I illustrated in the 1st post.

                    I personally think catchweights in title fights are horse****. Will I still watch it? Of course.

                    But now I regret making this thread in the first place, because now it seems as I am defending Cotto or something, which I'm not. I have no dog in this fight. I just think Shane whining about it is hypocritical and ridiculous, especially since he appearantly has no interest in rematching Cotto, which is the ONE fight he should be seeking.......
                    This is all besides the point because I don't think Mosley should be fighting any more. Hes showing signs of all the punishment he has taking in his ring. His speech patterns have changed noticeably in recent years, and even though he keeps winning, its only at the expense of his health.

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                    • NakiFan
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                      #40
                      Yeah I Kind of agree, Mosley has nothing left to proove, the guy is a legend i couldnt bear to see him hurt

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