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  • THE REED
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    #1

    No Offense to PAC Fans, but...

    I kind of feel he is disrupting the welterweight and JR. WW division...

    For starters... Mosley-Cotto SHOULD be the very next fight...

    You have the two biggest guys, the two champions of the division, and neither are looking at any other welterweights right now..

    Then you have PAC who has the Lineal title at 140... and he isn't looking at any other 140lbers right now, either..

    Mosley Cotto are the two guys are at the very top of their division, their last fight was very close... and I think Mosley-Cotto should be happening next, but neither of them can take their eyes off Pacman. I understand why, I do... but I feel like they should be focused on becoming the undisputed champion. How good can you feel as champion... when there are two other champions in your own weightclass... I feel like that is unfinished business.

    I also feel like, if Pac feels he can beat welters, then he should fight them at welter... If they are too big, then stay at JR WW... until you feel you can handle another move up in weight.

    Catchweights may make for interesting fights, but they do not help us sort out either division. In a time of boxing when every weight class has 3-4 different champions, these catch weight fights aren't helping matters.

    Also, neither fighter will get full credit for a win... If you beat Mosley or Cotto under 147lbs, how much credit do you expect to get?

    Just to end all that, it's not that I wouldn't enjoy a catchweight between Pac-Mosley or Pac-Cotto... I definitely would, I would buy both fights, and I would enjoy both fights, and I know they would BOTH be exciting... I just think as far as boxing purists, there are more important things.

    Like a unified champion in the division.

    P.s. I am assuming about a 50% agree/disagree here... because I know a lot of people prefer these catchweights... and it's understandable.

    Extra Side Note: Full blame is not just on Pac, but Cotto and Mosley as well..

    Pac if you want to fight Cotto/Mosley beat them at their best... if you can't, then stay in your division or wait until you can move up to do so...

    Cotto/Mosley: You have unfinished business
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    Last edited by THE REED; 06-16-2009, 12:05 PM.
  • fightingfigs
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    #2
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    I kind of feel he is disrupting the welterweight and JR. WW division...

    For starters... Mosley-Cotto SHOULD be the very next fight...

    You have the two biggest guys, the two champions of the division, and neither are looking at any other welterweights right now..

    Then you have PAC who has the Lineal title at 140... and he isn't looking at any other 140lbers right now, either..

    Mosley Cotto are the two guys are at the very top of their division, their last fight was very close... and I think Mosley-Cotto should be happening next, but neither of them can take their eyes off Pacman. I understand why, I do... but I feel like they should be focused on becoming the undisputed champion. How good can you feel as champion... when there are two other champions in your own weightclass... I feel like that is unfinished business.

    I also feel like, if Pac feels he can beat welters, then he should fight them at welter... If they are too big, then stay at JR WW... until you feel you can handle another move up in weight.

    Catchweights may make for interesting fights, but they do not help us sort out either division. In a time of boxing when every weight class has 3-4 different champions, these catch weight fights aren't helping matters.

    Just to end all that, it's not that I wouldn't enjoy a catchweight between Pac-Mosley or Pac-Cotto... I definitely would, I would buy both fights, and I would enjoy both fights, and I know they would BOTH be exciting... I just think as far as boxing purists, there are more important things.

    Like a unified champion in the division.
    MOsley Cotto already happened. yea it was a fire fight but COtto got the UD and deserved it bro.

    theres bigger fish out there now.

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    • THE REED
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      #3
      Originally posted by fightingfigs
      MOsley Cotto already happened. yea it was a fire fight but COtto got the UD and deserved it bro.

      theres bigger fish out there now.
      Yeah, but things have happened since that fight. Cotto had a SERIOUS loss to a guy that Mosley ran over. That right there in and of itself should make a rematch happen IMO

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      • MANGLER
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        #4
        Wow. This thread. :wank::wank::wank: Spot on Reed. WW's should fight WW's, and if you ain't a WW, don't halfass it wit a catchweight and pretend to be. If Pac or JMM were gonna go all the way up, gr8. But they admit they can't be effective as full fledged WW's by needin these catchweights to accommodate them, so **** it. Fight in your own division til you outgrow it. Pac got good fighters to face at 140. Arum just gotta accept that they ain't mega $ matchups. Same wit JMM and his team.

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        • shadeyfizzle
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          #5
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          Yeah, but things have happened since that fight. Cotto had a SERIOUS loss to a guy that Mosley ran over. That right there in and of itself should make a rematch happen IMO
          There was also that SERIOUS revelation before the fight that put SERIOUS questioning into Cotto's SERIOUS loss over that same dude.

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          • baracuda
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            #6
            i kinda agree but who in the jr w you'd rather see pac fight than floyd,mosely and cotto? jmm (got a scheduled fight).....jww's are high risk low reward for pac....and hes' lookin for the biggest paydays before he retires...

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            • THE REED
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              #7
              Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
              There was also that SERIOUS revelation before the fight that put SERIOUS questioning into Cotto's SERIOUS loss over that same dude.
              Understandable... but the fact still remains... the only loss in his career, and Mosley ran over the guy.. on top of the fact their first fight was close, and they are BOTH ww champions now...

              Something that was not the case before.

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              • THE REED
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                #8
                Originally posted by baracuda
                i kinda agree but who in the jr w you'd rather see pac fight than floyd,mosely and cotto? jmm (got a scheduled fight).....jww's are high risk low reward for pac....and hes' lookin for the biggest paydays before he retires...
                if you can't fight WW's at WW... then you should stay at JR ww, until you can.

                Is Pac going to get FULL credit by beating Cotto and Mosley under 147lbs?

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                • The Gully Gad
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                  #9
                  I agree with the thread.....

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                  • 713832281
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                    #10
                    i kinda agree. there isnt much @ 140 but he can go back down to 135 and do some work there, starting with JMM.

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