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  • THE REED
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    #141
    Originally posted by Naestro USA
    but cotto weighed 146 in clottey fight, right?
    Yeah, and Ive seen him look better

    If 145 is fine, then fight at 147.

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      #142
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Yeah, but things have happened since that fight. Cotto had a SERIOUS loss to a guy that Mosley ran over. That right there in and of itself should make a rematch happen IMO
      the only reason why cotto lost is because of plaster. he was battering margacheato way more than mosley did.

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        #143
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        No Offense to PAC Fans, but...I kind of feel he is disrupting the welterweight and JR. WW division...
        I kinda think that it is Juan Manuel Marquez who is disrupting the ww and jww division, denying fight fans worldwide the fight they want to see, a welterweight fight between Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. outright. Because of JMM, that fight may never happen.

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          #144
          Originally posted by One Two
          the only reason why cotto lost is because of plaster. he was battering margacheato way more than mosley did.
          Maybe, but Marg's hands being illegally wrapped has nothing to do with Cotto's punches not effecting Margarito, like Mosleys did.

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            #145
            Originally posted by ThunderWolf
            I kinda think that it is Juan Manuel Marquez who is disrupting the ww and jww division, denying fight fans worldwide the fight they want to see, a welterweight fight between Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. Because of JMM, that fight may never happen.
            It was Mayweather's choice to fight JMM. He chose JMM, instead of PAC.

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              #146
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              Maybe, but Marg's hands being illegally wrapped has nothing to do with Cotto's punches not effecting Margarito, like Mosleys did.
              it was the same thing that was happening margarito getting battered. not until the late rounds when marg started punching cotto and cotto got hurt. it was the same exact thing with mosley fight, it seems like marg isn't getting hurt but it's the same thing too, marg can't hurt mosley either because the gloves wasn't loaded.

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                #147
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Yeah, but things have happened since that fight. Cotto had a SERIOUS loss to a guy that Mosley ran over. That right there in and of itself should make a rematch happen IMO
                you whole argument is based on the fact that mosley beat margarito.

                Cotto had a serious loss against a margorito with plaster in his hands

                do you think mosley would have beaten plasterito? I think not.

                personally I do not want to see a rematch, it'd be more of the same I would match rather see pac fight cotto mosley or mayweather rather then him fight marquez again.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  It was Mayweather's choice to fight JMM. He chose JMM, instead of PAC.
                  Mayweather called out JMM???!!! Or is it JMM and the reason PBF is fighting him.? I think that Pac may disrupt the jww and ww to break boxing history, and JMM is just chasing Pacquiao and is disrupting the ww division as well. Right now, Pacquiao is a natural jww and ww, believe it or not.

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                    #149
                    i would like to see cotto/mosley reloaded but i want cotto make his scrilla too.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by bbos
                      you whole argument is based on the fact that mosley beat margarito.

                      Cotto had a serious loss against a margorito with plaster in his hands

                      do you think mosley would have beaten plasterito? I think not.

                      personally I do not want to see a rematch, it'd be more of the same I would match rather see pac fight cotto mosley or mayweather rather then him fight marquez again.
                      No, my whole argument is based on a lot of things.

                      It's based on the fact that if you can't fight them at their best, which is welter... then wait until you can, or don't.

                      It's based on the fact that Mosley-Cotto are BOTH ww champions now.

                      It's based on the fact that no matter how you slice the pie, Mosley and Cotto are the two top fighters at WW, and have every reason to fight, but they are concerned with PAC, which slows the whole division down. We could have a recognized champion in the division if they were to fight next.

                      It's based on the fact that the JR. WW Lineal champion, isn't even KIND OF looking at any of the fighters in HIS division...

                      It's based on the fact that although Cotto holds a marginal victory over Mosley... Mosley then in turn knocked out the guy who stopped him. Wrapped or no wrapped, it still happened.

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