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  • VXNerveAgent
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    #161
    Originally posted by pacman777
    you think he is disrupting? tru but in a good way. he's brought back exitement to boxing like never before...
    HA! this whole.. everyone wanting to fight pacman sickens me. sometimes i wish pac would just retire.

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    • bbos
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      #162
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      No, my whole argument is based on a lot of things.

      It's based on the fact that if you can't fight them at their best, which is welter... then wait until you can, or don't.

      It's based on the fact that Mosley-Cotto are BOTH ww champions now.

      It's based on the fact that no matter how you slice the pie, Mosley and Cotto are the two top fighters at WW, and have every reason to fight, but they are concerned with PAC, which slows the whole division down. We could have a recognized champion in the division if they were to fight next.

      It's based on the fact that the JR. WW Lineal champion, isn't even KIND OF looking at any of the fighters in HIS division...

      It's based on the fact that although Cotto holds a marginal victory over Mosley... Mosley then in turn knocked out the guy who stopped him. Wrapped or no wrapped, it still happened.
      If plasterito fought mosley, then it can be assumed that plasterito would be the lineal ww champ right now, not mosely and cotto would be getting a rematch with plasterito.

      and lets not forget that boxing is for the fans, to provide fans with exciting fights that can encapsulate and enthrall the population, and whats better then a fight with the #1 draw, the pound for pound, most exciting fighter against the lineal champs ( in my eyes is cotto, mosely got lucky with a win over margarito not plasterito. thus I don't consider him the lineal ww champ right now.)

      the catch weight is to create a even and competitive fight, and whose to say pac wont fight at 147?

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      • nujabes77
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        #163
        Originally posted by VXNerveAgent
        HA! this whole.. everyone wanting to fight pacman sickens me. sometimes i wish pac would just retire.

        pacquiao is the most exiting fighter and p4p the best. get real dude

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        • ThunderWolf
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          #164
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          What is wrong with you

          LMAO AT JMM chose Floyd... sure buddy.
          1. JMM called out PBF right? Answer: _____

          2. PBF chose JMM because JMM called him out right? Answer: _____

          3. By calling out PBF, JMM already chose PBF beforehand, RIGHT? Answer: _____

          4. So why did the fight get scheduled if they did not choose each other?
          Do you think PBF-JMM will happen if JMM did not choose to fight him beforehand?

          5. It takes TWO to CHOOSE for a fight to materialize, and JMM chose first, called out PBF. If JMM did not call out PBF do you think PBF chooses him?

          What`s hard to understand?

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          • THE REED
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            #165
            Originally posted by bbos
            If plasterito fought mosley, then it can be assumed that plasterito would be the lineal ww champ right now, not mosely and cotto would be getting a rematch with plasterito.

            and lets not forget that boxing is for the fans, to provide fans with exciting fights that can encapsulate and enthrall the population, and whats better then a fight with the #1 draw, the pound for pound, most exciting fighter against the lineal champs ( in my eyes is cotto, mosely got lucky with a win over margarito not plasterito. thus I don't consider him the lineal ww champ right now.)

            the catch weight is to create a even and competitive fight, and whose to say pac wont fight at 147?
            alright well drop the plasterito thing, obviously i know your viewpoint on that.

            This thread isnt about not making exciting fights.. matter of fact what I said in my very first post is, I would enjoy these fights, I would buy these fights.

            What this thread is about, is the fact that these catch weight fights are disrupting the weight classes, we have a lineal champion at one weight class, who isnt looking to fight anyone in his weight class..

            And we have two champions both evenly at the top of their division, and they are both focusing, not on each other to make a recognized ww champion... but on another fighter in a different weight class..

            Thats what this thread is about.


            If Pac wishes to move TO welterweight to fight the welterweight champions, I dont have a problem with that... but don't drag them below their best weight.

            If you want to beat Cotto or Mosley, beat them at their best... or wait until you can, and let them fight.
            Last edited by THE REED; 06-16-2009, 11:05 PM.

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            • THE REED
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              #166
              Originally posted by ThunderWolf
              1. JMM called out PBF right? Answer: _____

              2. PBF chose JMM because JMM called him out right? Answer: _____

              3. By calling out PBF, JMM already chose PBF beforehand, RIGHT? Answer: _____

              4. So why did the fight get scheduled if they did not choose each other?
              Do you think PBF-JMM will happen if JMM did not choose to fight him beforehand?

              5. It takes TWO to CHOOSE for a fight to materialize, and JMM chose first, called out PBF. If JMM did not call out PBF do you think PBF chooses him?

              What`s hard to understand?

              Floyd could of called JMM at ANYTIME he felt like it, and asked for a fight, and JMM would agree to it.

              Floyd is the chooser in this situation.. and you are the only person that feels otherwise.

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              • solo20
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                #167
                the VOTES ARE IN F**K YOU NUTHUGGERS OWNED GLAD TO SEE NOT EVERBODY IS A NUTHUUGER IN HERE

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                • bbos
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  alright well drop the plasterito thing, obviously i know your viewpoint on that.

                  This thread isnt about not making exciting fights.. matter of fact what I said in my very first post is, I would enjoy these fights, I would buy these fights.

                  What this thread is about, is the fact that these catch weight fights are disrupting the weight classes, we have a lineal champion at one weight class, who isnt looking to fight anyone in his weight class..

                  And we have two champions both evenly at the top of their division, and they are both focusing, not on each other to make a recognized ww champion... but on another fighter in a different weight class..

                  Thats what this thread is about.


                  If Pac wishes to move TO welterweight to fight the welterweight champions, I dont have a problem with that... but don't drag them below their best weight.

                  If you want to beat Cotto or Mosley, beat them at their best... or wait until you can, and let them fight.
                  if pac fights cotto or mosely at 145 or lower, will pac be fighting for the ww lineal title?

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                  • THE REED
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by bbos
                    if pac fights cotto or mosely at 145 or lower, will pac be fighting for the ww lineal title?
                    If he wants to fight for a lineal welterweight title, against a lineal welterweight champion, and he in turn wants to be the lineal welterweight champion... then he should fight at welterweight. That's how I feel.

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                    • bbos
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      If he wants to fight for a lineal welterweight title, against a lineal welterweight champion, and he in turn wants to be the lineal welterweight champion... then he should fight at welterweight. That's how I feel.
                      I agree with that

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