Clottey and his fans really have no right to ***** about the decision

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  • street bully
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    #31
    Originally posted by The_Bringer
    Straight up ; Cotto did very little in the final 2 rounds.

    But Clottey did even less. Literally nothing at all.

    Therefore you score those 2 rounds for the guy who at least did something.

    That man was Cotto.

    And that's what sealed the victory.

    Point blank.
    Those last two rounds didn't impress me at all. Clottey even outlanded him in the last two rounds, and he was litterally chasing the man around the ring.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
      Cotto didn't land enuff in the last 2 rounds to give him this fight.


      Clottey landed a whole lot more than Cotto....he set the pace and pressed the action.

      CLOTTEY MADE THE FIGHT..He wan't the one scrambling backwards.


      Again..

      You can't slam Clottey for not doing enough when Cotto did even LESS.
      Once again, and allow me to bold the parts I would like to hear you refute.....

      Cotto didn't do much in the final 2 rounds.

      But Clottey did nothing at all.

      Cotto at least threw some shots, and made a bit of contact. Catching the eyes of the judges.

      With the fight being so close, in Cotto's backyard, with a packed house full of Cotto fans, and on the Evening of the Puerto Rican Day Parade ; The onus was on Clottey to finish strong to make his case.

      He didn't.

      End of.

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      • rape
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        #33
        deja vous a.k.a horus so you're saying cotto did even less?

        find new ways to word your comments.

        your repetition is annoying.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          I had Cotto winning 115-112.

          But I don't see how Clottey and his fans can ***** about the decision, other than just disliking Cotto.

          Clottey had an injured man infront of him almost all night, who was on the backfoot and looking for time to rest.

          Instead of going after him and chopping him down like he should have, Clottey did what he aways does, and he let Cotto off of the hook.

          The same way he let Corrales and Judah off of the hook when he had them in trouble.

          Ontop of that, he pissed away the last 2 rounds by literally doing nothing.

          Therefore his argument of being robbed goes right out the window, because had he actually fought hard the last 2 rounds, he might have had a case for being robbed.

          As it is, he let Cotto off the hook numerous times, and let him take the final 2 rounds to seal his victory.

          Now, about Cotto.....

          He still can't fight going backwards for ****. Last night was very Margarito-like in the way Cotto kept on the backfoot, retreated to the ropes, and allowed himself to be battered rather than clinching his opponet.

          If Clottey had more pop in his punches, or just more overall determination ; the outcome woould've been Margarito all over again.

          That said, he showed me some balls and heart in there last night the way he fought through that nasty cut all night long rather than quit on his stool, take a knee, or look for any other way out.

          He's redeemed himself for the Margarito quitting IMO, but he really needs to learn how to clinch people, or find a more effective way of fighting while on the backfoot.

          Otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself yet again in the not so distant future.

          Good scrap overall, but Marquez/Diaz is still my FOTY candidate.
          Oh shut up, Yesterday was the first time I saw Clottey fight and I thought he won. I'm not a "Clottey fan" I just know he won the fight. Cotto fought like ****.

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            #35
            Originally posted by street bully
            Those last two rounds didn't impress me at all. Clottey even outlanded him in the last two rounds, and he was litterally chasing the man around the ring.
            I think you can make a stronger case that Clottey won the 11th, and I might even agree with that upon further review of the tape.

            But honestly ; the fight was on the table going into the 12th.

            And Clottey definitely gave that round away by not behaving like a fighter and fighting the full 3 minutes.

            I'm not saying Cotto closed strong ; he looked bad as well. But he at least did something. He gave us something, and that something was enough to win him that round, and win him the fight in most people's eyes.

            (Judging by most people's scores, they had Cotto 114-113, meaning the final round was critical.)

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              #36
              Yea, 114-113 Cotto seems to be the general consensus. I think that's the right score too.

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                #37
                Originally posted by street bully
                Those last two rounds didn't impress me at all. Clottey even outlanded him in the last two rounds, and he was litterally chasing the man around the ring.

                If anything, the last two rounds should have made Cotto lose even more. The man was getting his ass out-boxed like an amateur, and instead of trying to win by knockout, he ran like a ***** from his daddy.

                What a ***ing joke.


                Cotto is a joke and Mayweather would sweep every round against that fraud and probably knock his ass out if he dared to trade with him.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  I think you can make a stronger case that Clottey won the 11th, and I might even agree with that upon further review of the tape.

                  But honestly ; the fight was on the table going into the 12th.

                  And Clottey definitely gave that round away by not behaving like a fighter and fighting the full 3 minutes.

                  I'm not saying Cotto closed strong ; he looked bad as well. But he at least did something. He gave us something, and that something was enough to win him that round, and win him the fight in most people's eyes.

                  (Judging by most people's scores, they had Cotto 114-113, meaning the final round was critical.)
                  I had Clottey clearly winning it. fights are judges on effective aggression, ring generalship, damage inflicted (did you hurt your opponent more than they hurt you), clean crisp punches, work rate, and who was in controll of the majority of the round. Clottey was clearly ahead in all those mentioned categories. Cottos last 20 second combos didn't do it for me.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Patheticfraud?
                    Oh shut up, Yesterday was the first time I saw Clottey fight and I thought he won. I'm not a "Clottey fan" I just know he won the fight. Cotto fought like ****.
                    I never once said Cotto looked spectactular in there. Infact, I said there were times were he looked downright abysmal.

                    But for fuck's sake, argue this.....

                    Clottey had an injured man infront of him for 9 rounds, who was looking subpar and doubtful of his own abilities at times.

                    And he never even tried to take him out.


                    I'm not the smartest man on the planet by any means, but I do know this much :

                    If you put me in a situation where I'm fighting a top talent in any weight division, in his own backyard, infront of biased crowd of 20,000 of his supporters, in a fight that he's expected to win, on the evening of one of his people's most celebrated days. I'm bringing it.

                    I'd be damned if I'd let a fight that close slip through my fingers by allowing him to take any round, let alone the closing round.

                    I'd also be damned if I let him off the hook multiple times when I had already had him cut wide open and doubting himself.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      I had Clottey clearly winning it. fights are judges on effective aggression, ring generalship, damage inflicted (did you hurt your opponent more than they hurt you), clean crisp punches, work rate, and who was in controll of the majority of the round. Clottey was clearly ahead in all those mentioned categories. Cottos last 20 second combos didn't do it for me.
                      In the early rounds, Cotto was winning on all of those criteria. Which gave him an early lead on my card.

                      But most people had it even going into the 12th and final round, or so it seems.

                      So that just shows how differently scoring can vary from one person to the next.

                      And in a situation like that, the onus is on the underdog to close strong against the hometown favorite.

                      And Clottey didn't do that.

                      That's all I'm saying.

                      Both men looked like ****, if you want my honest opinion.

                      I mean, Clottey had an injured man infront of him for 9 rounds who looked like he had all but given up at times. And he let him off the hook every damn time, and even allowed him to claw his way back into the fight at times. (What the hell was with him letting Cotto trap him in that corner for over a minute?)

                      And Cotto was on the backfoot most of the time, incapable of keeping his ass off the ropes just like against Margarito. Sometimes in full on retreat mode when he was buzzed a bit by something from Clottey, and covered in blood. He showed many of the same flaws that Margarito exposed ; incapable of fighting on the backfoot, going to the ropes too often, using his legs too much, inable to clinch and efend properly, prone to the uppercut, etc....

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