Clottey and his fans really have no right to ***** about the decision

[ßringer]

I had Cotto winning 115-112.

But I don't see how Clottey and his fans can ***** about the decision, other than just disliking Cotto.

Clottey had an injured man infront of him almost all night, who was on the backfoot and looking for time to rest.

Instead of going after him and chopping him down like he should have, Clottey did what he aways does, and he let Cotto off of the hook.

The same way he let Corrales and Judah off of the hook when he had them in trouble.

Ontop of that, he pissed away the last 2 rounds by literally doing nothing.

Therefore his argument of being robbed goes right out the window, because had he actually fought hard the last 2 rounds, he might have had a case for being robbed.

As it is, he let Cotto off the hook numerous times, and let him take the final 2 rounds to seal his victory.

Now, about Cotto.....

He still can't fight going backwards for ****. Last night was very Margarito-like in the way Cotto kept on the backfoot, retreated to the ropes, and allowed himself to be battered rather than clinching his opponet.

If Clottey had more pop in his punches, or just more overall determination ; the outcome woould've been Margarito all over again.

That said, he showed me some balls and heart in there last night the way he fought through that nasty cut all night long rather than quit on his stool, take a knee, or look for any other way out.

He's redeemed himself for the Margarito quitting IMO, but he really needs to learn how to clinch people, or find a more effective way of fighting while on the backfoot.

Otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself yet again in the not so distant future.

Good scrap overall, but Marquez/Diaz is still my FOTY candidate.

[savorduhflavor]

I agree with every word. Dude hasn't learned anything, he still is so vulnerable to the uppercut and he retreats to the ropes for too long.

I think the cut really affected him man, that was a HORRIBLE cut in a HORRIBLE spot, it was clear that it was bothering him. I think Cotto put all doubts about his chin and his heart to rest.

Cutting out the macho bull**** of not clinching is what he needs to take care of next. And he needs a real ****ing trainer.

[Deja_Vous]

I had Cotto winning 115-112.

But I don't see how Clottey and his fans can ***** about the decision, other than just disliking Cotto.

Clottey had an injured man infront of him almost all night, who was on the backfoot and looking for time to rest.

Instead of going after him and chopping him down like he should have, Clottey did what he aways does, and he let Cotto off of the hook.

The same way he let Corrales and Judah off of the hook when he had them in trouble.

Ontop of that, he pissed away the last 2 rounds by literally doing nothing.

Therefore his argument of being robbed goes right out the window, because had he actually fought hard the last 2 rounds, he might have had a case for being robbed.

As it is, he let Cotto off the hook numerous times, and let him take the final 2 rounds to seal his victory.

Now, about Cotto.....

He still can't fight going backwards for ****. Last night was very Margarito-like in the way Cotto kept on the backfoot, retreated to the ropes, and allowed himself to be battered rather than clinching his opponet.

If Clottey had more pop in his punches, or just more overall determination ; the outcome woould've been Margarito all over again.

That said, he showed me some balls and heart in there last night the way he fought through that nasty cut all night long rather than quit on his stool, take a knee, or look for any other way out.

He's redeemed himself for the Margarito quitting IMO, but he really needs to learn how to clinch people, or find a more effective way of fighting while on the backfoot.

Otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself yet again in the not so distant future.

Good scrap overall, but Marquez/Diaz is still my FOTY candidate.

He still did more than Cotto..

Ya'll bitchin about Clottey not doing enough when Cotto did even less.

[D-MiZe]

Clottey had fans on here?

Or are they the 'we hate Cotto, lets side with Clottey' type of fans?

[ßringer]

I agree with every word. Dude hasn't learned anything, he still is so vulnerable to the uppercut and he retreats to the ropes for too long.

I think the cut really affected him man, that was a HORRIBLE cut in a HORRIBLE spot, it was clear that it was bothering him. I think Cotto put all doubts about his chin and his heart to rest.

Cutting out the macho bull**** of not clinching is what he needs to take care of next. And he needs a real ****ing trainer.

Yeah.

He really needs someone training him who knows what they hell they're doing.

Evangelista didn't, and from what I saw last night, the new guy doesn't either. (I already forgot whoever it is, because his training methods weren't evident at all last night.)

He needs someone who actually knows the game.

And he needs to quit that macho bull**** and start clinching when he's hurt.

A lot of ballsy, macho types who were much greater fighters than Cotto eventually had to learn the same lesson.

Overall though, I was impressed.

The performance wasn't stellar, but his heart and chin were really tested last night and he came out with the clear win, IMO.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I had Cotto winning 115-112.

But I don't see how Clottey and his fans can ***** about the decision, other than just disliking Cotto.

Clottey had an injured man infront of him almost all night, who was on the backfoot and looking for time to rest.

Instead of going after him and chopping him down like he should have, Clottey did what he aways does, and he let Cotto off of the hook.

The same way he let Corrales and Judah off of the hook when he had them in trouble.

Ontop of that, he pissed away the last 2 rounds by literally doing nothing.

Therefore his argument of being robbed goes right out the window, because had he actually fought hard the last 2 rounds, he might have had a case for being robbed.

As it is, he let Cotto off the hook numerous times, and let him take the final 2 rounds to seal his victory.

Now, about Cotto.....

He still can't fight going backwards for ****. Last night was very Margarito-like in the way Cotto kept on the backfoot, retreated to the ropes, and allowed himself to be battered rather than clinching his opponet.

If Clottey had more pop in his punches, or just more overall determination ; the outcome woould've been Margarito all over again.

That said, he showed me some balls and heart in there last night the way he fought through that nasty cut all night long rather than quit on his stool, take a knee, or look for any other way out.

He's redeemed himself for the Margarito quitting IMO, but he really needs to learn how to clinch people, or find a more effective way of fighting while on the backfoot.

Otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself yet again in the not so distant future.

Good scrap overall, but Marquez/Diaz is still my FOTY candidate.

Co sign on everything, cant say it better than that!! K

[ßringer]

He still did more than Cotto..

Ya'll bitchin about Clottey not doing enough when Cotto did even less.

Yeah, he did more than Cotto. And he impressed me a bit in certain areas.

But he pissed away any chance he had of winning the fight when he didn't do **** for the last 6 minutes.

Now argue that.

[Pugilistic™]

Cotto didn't show me any improvements from the Margarito fight when he goes on the backfoot, He was still very hittable on the ropes and again didn't clinch when he should of.

If he rematches Clottey or Margarito again, he will have to adjust.

[Deja_Vous]

Yeah, he did more than Cotto. And he impressed me a bit in certain areas.

But he pissed away any chance he had of winning the fight when he didn't do **** for the last 6 minutes.

Now argue that.

"Didn't do **** for the last 6 rounds" are the words of a damn fool and a disappointed nutthugger.

Clottey wasn't getting a decision anyway...hell...one of the judges had it 116-111.

Cotto did even less than Clottey PLUS he got hit PLENTY..a lot more than Clottey..that's for sure.

The fighter that lands more shots SHOULD win.


I can't believe ya'll are putting this on Clottey...

Well..come to think about it...I ain't surprised at all...LOL

[The Gambler1981]

I had Cotto winning 115-112.

But I don't see how Clottey and his fans can ***** about the decision, other than just disliking Cotto.

Clottey had an injured man infront of him almost all night, who was on the backfoot and looking for time to rest.

Instead of going after him and chopping him down like he should have, Clottey did what he aways does, and he let Cotto off of the hook.

The same way he let Corrales and Judah off of the hook when he had them in trouble.

Ontop of that, he pissed away the last 2 rounds by literally doing nothing.

Therefore his argument of being robbed goes right out the window, because had he actually fought hard the last 2 rounds, he might have had a case for being robbed.

As it is, he let Cotto off the hook numerous times, and let him take the final 2 rounds to seal his victory.

Now, about Cotto.....

He still can't fight going backwards for ****. Last night was very Margarito-like in the way Cotto kept on the backfoot, retreated to the ropes, and allowed himself to be battered rather than clinching his opponet.

If Clottey had more pop in his punches, or just more overall determination ; the outcome woould've been Margarito all over again.

That said, he showed me some balls and heart in there last night the way he fought through that nasty cut all night long rather than quit on his stool, take a knee, or look for any other way out.

He's redeemed himself for the Margarito quitting IMO, but he really needs to learn how to clinch people, or find a more effective way of fighting while on the backfoot.

Otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself yet again in the not so distant future.

Good scrap overall, but Marquez/Diaz is still my FOTY candidate.

That is pretty much how I feel 100%, the fight surpassed my expectations though so I am more then happy with it.

I said before the fight unless Clottey shows something in this fight that he has not in the past, he is going to come up short. He made a good showing of himself but he really did not show anything different.


Cotto showed a lot of heart getting to the end with that massive cut (even though it was to his advantage to just say **** it and stop the fight in round 6,7,8 would have been the smart play considering the cut was obviously effecting him, but man has heart). Cotto has some skills as a fighter but he is not and will never be a very good outside boxer, he can get by against some guys but when he goes into that fighting off the back foot mode of his he is very vulnerable.