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  • VaBoriKua 2.0
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    #291
    Originally posted by buckdacious
    were not talking about the same Cotto, who let the slowest WW in the last 20 years land 3 piece combos, are we??? HAHAHAHA
    were talking about the one that made floyd retire

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    • Pullcounter
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      #292
      Originally posted by Osirus022
      Cotto has EVERYTHING but the money, Everyone knows that Cotto will thrash Mayweather.
      so since cotto doesn't have the money then floyd can duck him right?

      Originally posted by Primal Instinx
      Cotto didn't duck for popularity nor money's sake, Cotto took on a serious opponent and passed the test, while P.Will failed 2 months later. Floyd can't say the same.
      you could make the same excuse for floyd. cotto lost to margo so floyd doesn't have to fight cotto. (not saying that I believe that, just saying it's a hole in the argument).

      Floyd can't say **** about the entire Welterweight division because he hasn't faced a welterweight since sorry ass pillow fisted Baldomir. I'm sorry guys but I don't give passes to my champs I say if you are a champ you have to clean out the division and take on all challenges and this being for your legacy...not get a free pass to sit and debate about who is worthy. Only greats take on the challenges and if Floyd wants to be the GOAT that he and many say he is then he should have faced everyone Cotto has been facing in this division...regardless of losing to Margarito the fact that he faced him speaks volumes compared to just facing guys out of the division.
      that's all very valid points and I agree. floyd should fight mosley and cotto in the near future.

      I also think a champ should clean out his division before moving on unless he can't make weight anymore. but I also believe that its not entirely pbf's fault that some fights didn't come off. also if a champ is given a opportunity he can't refuse, he'd be ****** not to take it.


      I think Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for any opponent but the fact that he doesn't face opponents does not sit well with me nor apparently many in the boxing world. Yeah he doesn't have to listen to anyone and he can do things on his own terms because he is his own man but don't expect to gain the recognition of the boxing fans if he doesnt fight the fights which would solidify as the GOAT. Think about what history we not have if SRL didn't fight Benitez, Duran, Heans, Hagler...that is what Floyd has on the table to face in this era and he refuses to make history for all the BS reasons he can come up with and the Floyd fans allow him to manipulate them and have they state that he is the greatest still...I give Floyd props from 130-135 but after those divisions what he has faced is horrendous for legacy purposes.
      I pretty much have to agree. I mean, floyd has to actually fight good fighters to get credit, he can't just win them all on paper and in hypothetical situations.

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      • Boxeo_Boricua
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        #293
        Originally posted by vaborikua
        were talking about the one that made floyd retire
        Yeah, Floyd said that he'll retire from boxing before boxing retires him, when asked about Cotto by Larry Merchant. What a punk!

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        • DuttyAlacrity
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          #294
          Originally posted by Primal Instinx
          I have to differ with your point of view...Williams called out Cotto and the rest of the division but Cotto faced Mosley instead of facing Williams...and at that point Williams was not known by the common fan, nor was Shane a walk in the park either so you can't say Cotto and his team was ducking Williams because they are trying to make Cotto a name in boxing and beating Mosley did just that. After the Shane fight Williams lost to Quintana who got man handled by Cotto therefore there was no need to fight Williams because he at that point still did not have a name for himself and just got beaten by someone who was a destroyed by Cotto so what point would it have made to fight Williams then? None what so ever, so quit with the Cotto ducking Williams routine cause that statement is played out and totally false.
          ... Right so Cotto avoided PWill (the more dangerous hot WW prospect who just dismantled "the most avoided boxer"-margacheato) for a higher profile fight for more money and fame.... I got it. But don't tell me Cotto has taken on all comers because he hasn't and don't attack PBF for doing the same like Pullcounter said:

          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          wait. so if cotto ducked pwill because pwill isn't on cotto's level in terms of popularity and money, then why can't floyd duck cotto since cotto isn't on floyd's level in terms of popularity and money?
          Also, don't forget what happened 4 months after in the quintana rematch in the FIRST ROUND.
          so let's do a little timeline:
          PW vs Margo - 7/14/2007
          PW Calls out the entire WW division
          cotto vs SSM - 11/10/2007
          Cotto decided to fight SSM because of popularity, money etc. ok fine what about after the SSM fight? If Team cotto made any inclination to fight PW after SSM, PW wouldn't have fought Quintana on 2/9/2008. There was no one else to fight so he chose to fight his mandatory.

          Alphonso Gomez was chosen (4/12/2008) as a tune up for margocheato... the rest is history

          Cotto is a great fighter and one of my favorite fighters at that but don't give me that "he took on all comers" bull crap 'cause he didn't.

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          • buckdacious
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            #295
            Originally posted by Animalistic
            Yeah his weak ass daddy, his uncle and all of his fake ass fans know Cotto would trash his ass.
            come on, im Boricua and I know he wont trash Mayweather. he would be lucky to even win 4 rounds with the way he gets hit. Pacquiao has 2 times the better shot to beat Mayweather then Cotto does

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              #296
              Cotto is the man. One of my favorite fighters to watch. Hopefully Mayweather ducks Pacquiao and we can finally get the fight everyone wanted before Mayweather retired.

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              • Animalistic
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                #297
                Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
                ... Right so Cotto avoided PWill (the more dangerous hot WW prospect who just dismantled "the most avoided boxer"-margacheato) for a higher profile fight for more money and fame.... I got it. But don't tell me Cotto has taken on all comers because he hasn't and don't attack PBF for doing the same like Pullcounter said:


                Also, don't forget what happened 4 months after in the quintana rematch in the FIRST ROUND.
                so let's do a little timeline:
                PW vs Margo - 7/14/2007
                PW Calls out the entire WW division
                cotto vs SSM - 11/10/2007
                Cotto decided to fight SSM because of popularity, money etc. ok fine what about after the SSM fight? If Team cotto made any inclination to fight PW after SSM, PW wouldn't have fought Quintana on 2/9/2008. There was no one else to fight so he chose to fight his mandatory.

                Alphonso Gomez was chosen (4/12/2008) as a tune up for margocheato... the rest is history

                Cotto is a great fighter and one of my favorite fighters at that but don't give me that "he took on all comers" bull crap 'cause he didn't.
                Please stop it! You are just another Cotto hater hidding as one of his fans so people can take you post seriously.

                STOP IT!

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                • Boxeo_Boricua
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                  #298
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  so since cotto doesn't have the money then floyd can duck him right?


                  you could make the same excuse for floyd. cotto lost to margo so floyd doesn't have to fight cotto. (not saying that I believe that, just saying it's a hole in the argument).


                  that's all very valid points and I agree. floyd should fight mosley and cotto in the near future.

                  I also think a champ should clean out his division before moving on unless he can't make weight anymore. but I also believe that its not entirely pbf's fault that some fights didn't come off. also if a champ is given a opportunity he can't refuse, he'd be ****** not to take it.



                  I pretty much have to agree. I mean, floyd has to actually fight good fighters to get credit, he can't just win them all on paper and in hypothetical situations.
                  So why do you defend Floyd so much if you admit that he ducks good competition? He wants to be recognized as the best but won't fight the best. I wish I was a millionare to pay Floyd what he wants to fight Mosley, Cotto or Williams.

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                  • Animalistic
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                    #299
                    Originally posted by buckdacious
                    come on, im Boricua and I know he wont trash Mayweather. he would be lucky to even win 4 rounds with the way he gets hit. Pacquiao has 2 times the better shot to beat Mayweather then Cotto does
                    Please...Your post is dumb as ****.

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                    • VaBoriKua 2.0
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                      #300
                      i got 2 words to all the cotto haters :****you:

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