Is Mayweather -VS- Marquez less a mismatch than Shane Mosley -VS- Juan Diaz? Poll!

[LilGizmo562]

After Marquez beat Diaz, he said he will move up to 140, since he had no more business at 135, then he said I would like to fight Floyd Mayweather at a catchweight, but the ****** interpreter didn't say the whole thing (as always).

I honestly believe Marquez is at a disadvantage, but not a HUGE one like people try to make it seem, Floyd is naturally bigger then Marquez, but not by a lot, I'm hoping Marquez shocks the world and makes the fight competitive and pull off the upset, but I see Floyd winning this fight :[

[talip bin osman]

I think you must have misunderstood what the dude you initially quoted meant then

when people say "Floyd ain't a welter" they generally mean his body shape/size isn't most naturally suited to welterweight, so they assume he can easily drop the pounds that he did gain and fight down where he looks most primed

not that he shouldn't be fighting at welterweight or fights there in the exact same condition he would at light welter

what we are talking about here are boxing weight divisions... OFFICIAL weight divisions... the weight they take during OFFICIAL weigh-ins boss...

not ur size or shape...

not the weight u hav on training...

not the weight u hav walking down the mall...

not the weight u have on fight night...

not the weight u have signing autographs...

OFFICIAL weight...

tommy hearns outsized hagler in their fight right?

but guess who came up a weight division to fight from 154 to 160?

[S.G.]

Just makes more confusion and unanswered questions IMO. Floyd could fight David Haye if we put 100 lbs of flour on Hayes back to make the fight fair. Still wanna see that?

not sure i really understand the relevence of the example there mate lol

say boxer A and boxer B want to fight each other, and for all intents and purposes are the same size at a glance, bar a couple inches here and there (no ****)

however boxer A currently fights at light heavyweight and boxer B currently fights at middleweight. boxer A can only get as low as 170lbs and feel comfortable and boxer A rehydrates to about 170lbs usually anyway, so they make the fight at a catchweight of 170lbs

nothing wrong with that at all IMO

[S.G.]

what we are talking about here are boxing weight divisions... OFFICIAL weight divisions... the weight they take during OFFICIAL weigh-ins boss...

not ur size or shape...

not the weight u hav on training...

not the weight u hav walking down the mall...

not the weight u have on fight night...

not the weight u have signing autographs...

OFFICIAL weight...

tommy hearns outsized hagler in their fight right?

but guess who came up a weight division to fight from 154 to 160?

So size doesn't matter, and plays absolutely no part whatsoever? That's a naive way of looking at it. Official weights only tell half the story

Hearns outsized Hagler is some dimensions and Hagler him in others. You consider the Hagler/Hearns bout as fair don't you?

[talip bin osman]

So size doesn't matter, and plays absolutely no part whatsoever? That's a naive way of looking at it. Official weights only tell half the story

Hearns outsized Hagler is some dimensions and Hagler him in others. You consider the Hagler/Hearns bout as fair don't you?

thats why there are boxing weights... hav u heard any size classes in boxing?

[Cadillac Man]

This is a mismatch anyway u look at it. It's the top welter vs the top lightweight. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

[toyboy33]

not sure i really understand the relevence of the example there mate lol

say boxer A and boxer B want to fight each other, and for all intents and purposes are the same size at a glance, bar a couple inches here and there (no ****)

however boxer A currently fights at light heavyweight and boxer B currently fights at middleweight. boxer A can only get as low as 170lbs and feel comfortable and boxer A rehydrates to about 170lbs usually anyway, so they make the fight at a catchweight of 170lbs

nothing wrong with that at all IMO

No nothing wrong with that, accept now people will say the only reason the winner won was because one or the other was not in their true fight division. People already use every excuse there is to discredit modern day fighters. The catch weights just give them more fuel IMO.

[S.G.]

thats why there are boxing weights... hav u heard any size classes in boxing?

look, i'm not discounting the importance of weight or official weight, i'm merely stating that it's not the be all and end all in reality. body shape/size accomodates weight

two hypothetical boxers in the middleweight division; one is 6'1" and rehydrates to 170lbs, the other is 5'8" and rehydrates to 162lbs. however they both officially weighed in at 160lbs

are they the same size?

[DrewWoodside]

that's fair. can you name some instances of where you feel catchweights are being abused? floyd/marquez?

It's hard to say. I can just imagine in future negotiations now that it is more common to use catchweights, that fighters are going to really be hagling over weight like it's money. Which could result in some bad weights.

[DrewWoodside]

So size doesn't matter, and plays absolutely no part whatsoever? That's a naive way of looking at it. Official weights only tell half the story

Hearns outsized Hagler is some dimensions and Hagler him in others. You consider the Hagler/Hearns bout as fair don't you?

We can vote on Catchweights here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=278012