Is Mayweather -VS- Marquez less a mismatch than Shane Mosley -VS- Juan Diaz? Poll!

[toyboy33]

Its hard for me to believe any name mentioned in a the p4p list should consider a 3-4 pound dif in weight a big disadvantage.

[Bhopreign]

Its hard for me to believe any name mentioned in a the p4p list should consider a 3-4 pound dif in weight a big disadvantage.

Exactly. Ive said this awhile now, a good champ or pfp fighter should be able to go up or down one weight class and beat a good fighter. Problem is this is Floyd we are talking about and instead of acknowleding his skill and the fact that he would beat Marquez at any weight, its better for detractors to bring up a size issue, but ask those same people would Floyd beat Marquez at 135 and they would say yes he would.

[Deja_Vous]

I'd say so because I don't believe Floyd is a welterweight either. Still Floyd is still at an significant advantage just not to the extent Mosley would be at. Floyd is using his name to force JMM to fight at a disadvantaged weight.

Floyd didn't force JMM to call him out after a fight.

JMM >>> Micheal Jennings..golden Johnson..Manuel Gomez..and Alphonso Gomez.

[S.G.]

if PBF aint a welterweight, he should've fought hatton @140...

Why? Mayweather held the cards so the onus was on Hatton to make the fight happen. And fair play to him, he did make it happen. Moving up one measly division when you've effectively conquered your current one is hardly a make or break factor

Same reason the Marquez fight is at 144lbs rather than 140lbs. If it's at light welter it would essentially be conceding that Mayweather and Marquez are on equal standings revenue/interest generation wise, which is obviously not the case and Mayweather isn't a very flexible person at this point in his career anyways. I actually worked it out and Marquez is making exactly 75% of the compromise to make this fight happen, and then taking into account the fact that cutting weight is harder than gaining it, it probably looks more like 66-33 in favour of Floyd. And this is completely disregarding the whole issue of weight on fight night

So yes, Marquez is at a size disadvantage but to me it doesn't seem to be worth this huge uproar. A great fighter is moving up and conceding a small weight disadvantage to challenge a slightly bigger great

[DrewWoodside]

Seriously the question doesnt make much sense because you detail four fighters but you end it with you thinking it isnt ok for WW to fight LW. Every fighter is different, different sizes different skill levels, every fighter doesnt fall into a no win or uncompetitive senario.

Which is the purpose of the thread. To discuss the subtleties of fighters weights and what is acceptable considering a fighter's natural size. Considering both fights involve fighters coming from identical weight classes, it is in no way a ridiculous question.

[toyboy33]

Exactly. Ive said this awhile now, a good champ or pfp fighter should be able to go up or down one weight class and beat a good fighter. Problem is this is Floyd we are talking about and instead of acknowleding his skill and the fact that he would beat Marquez at any weight, its better for detractors to bring up a size issue, but ask those same people would Floyd beat Marquez at 135 and they would say yes he would.

Well, I think most smart posters realize its not really about the size dif, but more about the opponent chosen. Not many would say anything about matching Floyd against huge P-Will or Margarito. They would be saying a P4P should step up and take the challenge. I'm think Marquez see's this as a once in a lifetime chance........he could shock the world if he wins.

[Bhopreign]

Which is the purpose of the thread. To discuss the subtleties of fighters weights and what is acceptable considering a fighter's natural size. Considering both fights involve fighters coming from identical weight classes, it is in no way a ridiculous question.

But just saying a WW shouldnt fight a lower weight isnt as simple as you put it. Marg and Floyd are at welterweight, look at that disparity in size, Floyd/JMM is alot closer than Floyd/Marg.

[DrewWoodside]

Exactly. Ive said this awhile now, a good champ or pfp fighter should be able to go up or down one weight class and beat a good fighter. Problem is this is Floyd we are talking about and instead of acknowleding his skill and the fact that he would beat Marquez at any weight, its better for detractors to bring up a size issue, but ask those same people would Floyd beat Marquez at 135 and they would say yes he would.

You're assuming people are attacking Floyd. I am just flat out asking why it would be ok in one instance and not the other and I realize there are a lot of variables involved in the question. Which is the purpose of the thread. I understand that a P4P fighter should be able to flex weight classes somewhat and still have strong results. However if two fighters are of equal or very comprable skill and one of the fighters is larger than the other, it only makes sense that the larger fighter has an advantage.

[DrewWoodside]

But just saying a WW shouldnt fight a lower weight isnt as simple as you put it. Marg and Floyd are at welterweight, look at that disparity in size, Floyd/JMM is alot closer than Floyd/Marg.

That is fair, but at some point after all this constant Floyd is too small for certain Welters.. Floyd really isn't a welter. I think this fight is ok but IMO it is more parts tuneup than a legit battle. IMO.

[S.G.]

okay so to answer the question as simply as possible; Floyd/Marquez is more acceptable for these reasons:

- Mayweather Jr. is smaller than Mosley
- Marquez just knocked out Diaz himself proving he's unrivaled at lightweight (thus it's the natural next step to seek challenges at higher weights)