Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

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  • DocG
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    #391
    144lbs is just about the perfect weight for a PAC vs Mosley fight. It's the next big thing to a PAC Vs Cotto. It's toe-to-toe action from start to finish! Just the way we all want it!

    PAC vs Fretty Boring Gayrunner??? a toe to heel fight!!! it's a hit and run.....Pac will do all the hitting and Gayrunner all the running!!! Its' all about the money that both will take to the bank.

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    • Iceta
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      #392
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      (a) That wouldn't make him The Ring champion because The Ring doesn't currently rate Williams at Welterweight.

      (b) Williams would move back down tomorrow if he could get a fight but Mosley has made it crystal clear that he will never fight Williams because "he's too tall". No point wasting your energy hoping for that fight to happen, you may as well hope that pigs will fly. Cotto-Mosley II on the other hand is in the realms of the possible.
      You're right about the fact that Williams is currently not ranked at 147. But I know for a fact that if he schedules a fight at that weight that Ring will automatically insert him at #2, and that's why I made that post. If Mosley and Williams schedule a fight it will be for all the marbles. Why do you think that Margarito-Mosley was not for the Ring title? Now Cotto-Mosley 2 would crown a Ring champ as well. I'm not dis*****g that.

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      • BROOKLYN CESAR
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        #393
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        Rex “Wakee” Salud, One of Manny Pacquiao’s advisers, says the Filipino fighter should not agree to meet Shane Mosley at a catch-weight of 144-pounds. At 144, Salud says Pacquiao would be at a very big disadvantage. He says the fight should take place at 142 or 143 at most. [details]
        What kind of ***** arse bull**** is this!!! P4p 1 isnt he??? He fought gayla hoya at 147 so why cant he fight SSM at 147 *** 144!!!

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        • ChiRock773
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          #394
          Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
          What kind of ***** arse bull**** is this!!! P4p 1 isnt he??? He fought gayla hoya at 147 so why cant he fight SSM at 147 *** 144!!!

          ha ha...EXACTLY...

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          • Dave Rado
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            #395
            Originally posted by Iceta
            You're right about the fact that Williams is currently not ranked at 147. But I know for a fact that if he schedules a fight at that weight that Ring will automatically insert him at #2, and that's why I made that post.
            No they wouldn't - if that were true Mayweather would be in their current P4P list, and he isn't.

            Originally posted by Iceta
            If Mosley and Williams schedule a fight it will be for all the marbles.
            Not The Ring's marbles, unless Mosley rematches Cotto first.

            Originally posted by Iceta
            Why do you think that Margarito-Mosley was not for the Ring title?
            Two reasons: Mosley has unfinished business with Cotto, and Margarito had unfinished business with Williams. But that was a #1 vs. #3 match-up, which is always discretionary and which rarely leads to a new Ring champion in practice when the title is vacant; and Williams would not re-appear in The Ring's rankings unless he beats someone at 147 - that's their policy, whether you like it or not.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #396
              Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
              What kind of ***** arse bull**** is this!!! P4p 1 isnt he??? He fought gayla hoya at 147 so why cant he fight SSM at 147 *** 144!!!
              While I agree he should fight Jnr Welterweights if he can't fight at 147, your argument that just because he's P4P #1, a former Jnr Flyweight should be able to fight at any weight is ridiculous. If you take that logic to its logical conclusion you may as well ask him to fight Vitali Klitschko. Every fighter has a maximum peak weight, above which they lose their effectiveness, and Pacquiao's just happens to be Jnr Welterweight.

              He fought a natural 154 pounder at 147: the weight was effectively a catchweight between DLH's weight (154) and Pac's weight at the time (135). That is very different indeed from fighting a natural Welterweight at 147. In addition, he only weighed in at 142 against DLH, not at 147. If you didn't know all that you're extremely ignorant. If you did know all that and chose to ignore it, you're an idiotic hater.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-09-2009, 10:04 AM.

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                #397
                Mosley vs Pacquiao should take place at straweight!

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                  #398
                  you folks are dumb its not pac saying he wont fight mosely its his advisors. pac will fight him at any weight.

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                  • fcastro1
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                    #399
                    Originally posted by Iceta
                    I've heard some people defending Pacquiao on this by saying that Mosley is the one whoring himself for this fight and it makes sense really. But Manny puts himself in this position by not cleaning out the weight divisions he campaigns in. If you want my opinion, he's leaped over more worthy opponents than RJJ and Floyd combined while moving through the weight classes. Now he's more exciting than those two and that's why I'm a fan. But I can't think of one division he's cleaned out since he took care of business against the big Mexican three. Look at all the opponents that could've provided him with exciting and competitive fights from 130-140. Campell, Casamayor, J. Diaz, Soto, Valero, Alvarado, Ortiz, D. Alexander, and Linares come off the top of my head. I figure he can probably already beat Urbano Antillon because he worked him over in sparring but the other guys I just mentioned I think would give him a good fight. I would make Pacquiao the favorite over those guys but saying he can beat them and Manny doing it is two different things. I miss the days when Arguello and Duran fought. Those guys left no loose ends hardly.

                    you aint a fan you are a hater. ducked more fighters than fm and rjj. you ******, who is sotto, valero alexander linares, campbell, thats like moving a step down. like those names are better than barerra morales mmarquez hatton delahoya mayweather cotto. are you ******.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #400
                      Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
                      What kind of ***** arse bull**** is this!!! P4p 1 isnt he??? He fought gayla hoya at 147 so why cant he fight SSM at 147 *** 144!!!
                      1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal

                      2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto/mosley/pbf officially weighed 138 lbs???

                      3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

                      4) unless cotto/mosley/pbf agrees to 142, this fight shouldn't even be discussed. Get down to 142 lbs or GTFO and fight mosley

                      5) Cotto/mosley is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???

                      6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley/pbf officially weighed 142 lbs???

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