Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[Dave Rado]

you folks are dumb its not pac saying he wont fight mosely its his advisors.

True, but it makes Pac look bad when his advisers say things like this publicly and in an authoritative way. It would be a good idea for him to tell them to stop doing it.

pac will fight him at any weight.

You don't know that. He makes the final decisions, so time will tell.

[Dave Rado]

4) unless cotto/mosley/pbf agrees to 142, this fight shouldn't even be discussed.

Pac has stated in the past that those (plus possibly Marquez) are the fights he's interested in. He shouldn't ask them to come in weight drained, that makes a travesty of boxing. If he doesn't want to fight them above 142, he should fight Bradley, Campbell or Marquez.

[Pullcounter]

Pac has stated in the past that those (plus possibly Marquez) are the fights he's interested in.

I've never heard Pac say he wants to fight cotto or mosley. I've only ever heard Arum push for the cotto fight and GBP push for the mosley fight. Roach only brings up cotto and mosley because people ask him about it.

roach said on national TV that pac had 2 fights left: floyd, jmm, retire.

I dunno how much more clear I can be on this.

147 lbers who have no business fighting a 140 lber keep calling out pac. pac just says he's open for anything, but that's not the same as calling them out.

EPIC FAIL on trying to make it seem like pac is interested.

He shouldn't ask them to come in weight drained, that makes a travesty of boxing.

pac didn't ask for that. roach asked for that to protect his 140 lber from 147 lbers.

If he doesn't want to fight them above 142, he should fight Bradley, Campbell or Marquez.

if cotto/mosley don't want to fight at 142, then they should walk away and fight each other instead of picking on pac.

True, but it makes Pac look bad when his advisers say things like this publicly and in an authoritative way.

you're too gullible. wait until the contract is signed before you start jumping to conclusions.

It would be a good idea for him to tell them to stop doing it.

its all a part of the negotiation process. if you don't like it then cover your ears.

You don't know that. He makes the final decisions, so time will tell.

exactly, time will tell so stop jumping to conclusions.

[Dave Rado]

I've never heard Pac say he wants to fight cotto or mosley. I've only ever heard Arum push for the cotto fight and GBP push for the mosley fight. Roach only brings up cotto and mosley because people ask him about it.

Well I can't be bothered to do a lot of google searching but I thought I had seen Pac himself quoted in the past as saying he'd be interested.

147 lbers who have no business fighting a 140 lber keep calling out pac. pac just says he's open for anything, but that's not the same as calling them out.

He should just say he's not interested in those fights, if he's not interested.

roach asked for that to protect his 140 lber from 147 lbers.

Roach should just say he's not interested in those fights, if he's not interested. He shouldn't ask them to come in weight drained.

if cotto/mosley don't want to fight at 142, then they should walk away and fight each other.

Agreed.

you're too gullible. wait until the contract is signed before you start jumping to conclusions.

What's gullibility got to do with it? I just said it makes Pac look bad when his advisers say things like that, and it does.

its all a part of the negotiation process. if you don't like it then cover your ears.

Why are they negotiating if Pac isn't interested in the fight?

exactly, time will tell so stop jumping to conclusions.

What conclusions?

[Bogler]

Well I can't be bothered to do a lot of google searching but I thought I had seen Pac himself quoted in the past as saying he'd be interested.


He should just say he's not interested in those fights, if he's not interested.

do you honestly think ANY fighter in the 140 division if get called out by mosley/cotto or floyd would flatly say NO??? even JMM who last fought at 135 WILL accept that challenge. be real.

[Pullcounter]

Well I can't be bothered to do a lot of google searching but I thought I had seen Pac himself quoted in the past as saying he'd be interested.

He never said that. All he said was he was open to fight anyone pending negotiations.

He should just say he's not interested in those fights, if he's not interested.

all pac said was he wouldn't commit to anything right now. He even said he wasn't even thinking about boxing.

Roach should just say he's not interested in those fights, if he's not interested.

fights against mosley & cotto are leverage against floyd in negotiations. you know this.

He shouldn't ask them to come in weight drained.

WWs shouldn't be begging pac for fights either.

What's gullibility got to do with it? I just said it makes Pac look bad when his advisers say things like that, and it does.

because you actually believe the advisers when nothing has even been set in stone.

Why are they negotiating if Pac isn't interested in the fight?

i'm talking about negotiations w/ floyd obvisiously.

What conclusions?

Pac look bad when his advisers say things like that - dave

[Dave Rado]

WWs shouldn't be begging pac for fights either.

I've already said I agree with that.

because you actually believe the advisers when nothing has even been set in stone.

I have never said I believe that Pac shares the opinion of his advisers on this.

Pac look bad when his advisers say things like that - dave

He does, whether it's warranted or not.

[Iceta]

No they wouldn't - if that were true Mayweather would be in their current P4P list, and he isn't.



Not The Ring's marbles, unless Mosley rematches Cotto first.



Two reasons: Mosley has unfinished business with Cotto, and Margarito had unfinished business with Williams. But that was a #1 vs. #3 match-up, which is always discretionary and which rarely leads to a new Ring champion in practice when the title is vacant; and Williams would not re-appear in The Ring's rankings unless he beats someone at 147 - that's their policy, whether you like it or not.

I might be wrong, but I thought I read something about a scenario of where all Williams had to do was schedule a fight at 147 and they'll automatically rank him at #2. I think I may have read it on the Ring website but I don't remember. I'm not gonna debate about it though. It would be the right thing to do though because he didn't leave the division by choice. He had to move up because nobody would give him a meaningful fight.

[boxingfan76]

He never said that. All he said was he was open to fight anyone pending negotiations.


all pac said was he wouldn't commit to anything right now. He even said he wasn't even thinking about boxing.


fights against mosley & cotto are leverage against floyd in negotiations. you know this.


WWs shouldn't be begging pac for fights either.


because you actually believe the advisers when nothing has even been set in stone.


i'm talking about negotiations w/ floyd obvisiously.



Pac look bad when his advisers say things like that - dave

look pull lets be real you can spin it any way you want but anyone that hears these ridiculous freddie roach /team pac weight demands knows they are scared of losing ,very scared otherwise they wouldnt be asking for weight drains ,you can say anything about delahoya but what kind of honor could there be or is there in basking and taking all the credit for beating oscar whom weighd 146 on fight night and pac 148 on fight night then turning around and refusing to fight at the same weight just because the guy (mosley) is tooo good and a serious threat? no honor no dignity even, just total cowardly demands a true pnd for pnd fights even with weight disadvantages thats why he supposedly pnd for pnd,in the first place.ray robinson fought raging bull with a 15lb disadvantage and still won. if pac is all that whats the problem? pac wont even have a weight disadvantage in the first place ,its a farce pac has come in as heavy as 150lbs how in the hell is that even justifiable? its not and it chips away at pacs rep,most people on here hate those weight demands ,its like are u a fighter or arent u pac? cowardly ,not necessarry and pac even if he gets kod by mosley would get more credit than trying to weight drain him and winning, noone with 1 iota of common sense is going to like these demands or give pac ANY CREDIT FOR ASKING FOR THEM.THEY SHOULD JUST ASK FOR MOSLEY OR ANY WELTER TO COME IN A STRAIGHT JACKET WHILE THEYRE AT IT.pac clearly said :I WILL FIGHT ANYONE AT 147 140 OR 135 after the hatton fight to larry merchant youve been claiming otherwise.

[Dave Rado]

I might be wrong, but I thought I read something about a scenario of where all Williams had to do was schedule a fight at 147 and they'll automatically rank him at #2. I think I may have read it on the Ring website but I don't remember. I'm not gonna debate about it though. It would be the right thing to do though because he didn't leave the division by choice. He had to move up because nobody would give him a meaningful fight.

I agree it would be the right thing to do - in fact I think it was wrong of them to remove him from the Welterweight rankings in the first place, and one of their worst decisions - but I'm sceptical that they would reinstate him based on a scheduled fight, until the fight has taken place, given that they haven't reinstated Mayweather.