Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[Iceta]

Mosley is not The Ring champion, the title is vacant. He needs to rematch Cotto before there will be a Ring champion.

Or fight Paul Williams for it if he's willing to move back down.

[Iceta]

I've heard some people defending Pacquiao on this by saying that Mosley is the one whoring himself for this fight and it makes sense really. But Manny puts himself in this position by not cleaning out the weight divisions he campaigns in. If you want my opinion, he's leaped over more worthy opponents than RJJ and Floyd combined while moving through the weight classes. Now he's more exciting than those two and that's why I'm a fan. But I can't think of one division he's cleaned out since he took care of business against the big Mexican three. Look at all the opponents that could've provided him with exciting and competitive fights from 130-140. Campell, Casamayor, J. Diaz, Soto, Valero, Alvarado, Ortiz, D. Alexander, and Linares come off the top of my head. I figure he can probably already beat Urbano Antillon because he worked him over in sparring but the other guys I just mentioned I think would give him a good fight. I would make Pacquiao the favorite over those guys but saying he can beat them and Manny doing it is two different things. I miss the days when Arguello and Duran fought. Those guys left no loose ends hardly.

[Pullcounter]

I've heard some people defending Pacquiao on this by saying that Mosley is the one whoring himself for this fight and it makes sense really. But Manny puts himself in this position by not cleaning out the weight divisions he campaigns in. If you want my opinion, he's leaped over more worthy opponents than RJJ and Floyd combined while moving through the weight classes. Now he's more exciting than those two and that's why I'm a fan. But I can't think of one division he's cleaned out since he took care of business against the big Mexican three. Look at all the opponents that could've provided him with exciting and competitive fights from 130-140. Campell, Casamayor, J. Diaz, Soto, Valero, Alvarado, Ortiz, D. Alexander, and Linares come off the top of my head. I figure he can probably already beat Urbano Antillon because he worked him over in sparring but the other guys I just mentioned I think would give him a good fight. I would make Pacquiao the favorite over those guys but saying he can beat them and Manny doing it is two different things. I miss the days when Arguello and Duran fought. Those guys left no loose ends hardly.

you can't blame pac... he won the dlh lottery so he had to jump.

also pac was outgrowing some of those divisions.

again, blaming pac for winning the dlh lottery and growing out of divisions is unfair.

[Dave Rado]

Like I said, Manny's going to do Manny, but to say that is an legit
way to do business is not right and will never get a Cosigned from me.

He's not the greatest businessman but who cares? I'm a boxing fan, not a business fan. I don't pay to watch Bill Gates, but I pay to watch Pac.

[Dave Rado]

Sorry boss pac was not a 3-1 fav anywhere for hatton. Closed at -225 I believe.

The point is that he was a very strong betting favourite. The vast majority of boxing writers (outside the UK at least) thought Pac would win as well. The boxingscene writers picked Pacquiao to win by a 19-7 vote. So the poster who claimed that everyone predicted Hatton would win has been living on another planet, as I said.

[Dave Rado]

It's not his people they are in it together.Manny is privy to all the things being done in the camp.

Are you in Manny's camp? Or are you a clairvoyant? If not, then how the fu.ck do you know?

[Pullcounter]

He's not the greatest businessman but who cares? I'm a boxing fan, not a business fan. I don't pay to watch Bill Gates, but I pay to watch Pac.

I don't even understand what that guy's complaint is. pac doesn't even have a high school diploma and he's expecting pac to be a businessman?

also business men ruined the global economy, so what about being a business man is so great?

[Dave Rado]

Could Roy Jones beat any heavy weight ,,, a resounding no , and Pac cannot beat any welterweight , the ignorance surrounding weight on this board is absolutely amazing , Pacs doing the right thing and so is his team , you idiots want to throw him to the lions that are so much bigger than him its not even funny and then the idiots call him a ***** , Shane dont want Williams but wants a guy that is 15 pounds smaller and Pac is the ***** , unbelievable , go and have a go at boxing yourself and then tell me weight dont mean anything .

It's so simple, it's incredible that you still can't understand it. If Pac can't beat any Welterweight and if his division is Junior Welterweight, then he should fight Junior Welterweights and clear out his own division. He should fight Bradley, Campbell or Marquez. He should do what Mayweather is criticised for not doing, but which he hasn't been doing lately either, which is fight the top fighters in his own division. He should not be trying to get big money fights with weight drained fighters. That's sick, dangerous, a farce, and makes a travesty of boxing. It's far worse than anything Floyd has ever done.

[Dave Rado]

Mayweather was supposed to be the huge draw yet he only fought fighters who would make him a lot of money (Hatton) instead of fighting legit WW's.

Just like Pac is doing now (other than the fact that Pac should be fighting legit Jnr Welterweights, because that's his division). But at least Floyd didn't ask his opponents to come in weight drained.

[Dave Rado]

Or fight Paul Williams for it if he's willing to move back down.

(a) That wouldn't make him The Ring champion because The Ring doesn't currently rate Williams at Welterweight.

(b) Williams would move back down tomorrow if he could get a fight but Mosley has made it crystal clear that he will never fight Williams because "he's too tall". No point wasting your energy hoping for that fight to happen, you may as well hope that pigs will fly. Cotto-Mosley II on the other hand is in the realms of the possible.