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Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"
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actually he got knocked down against judah and they didnt count it also against hernandez he took a knee so its counted as a knockdown
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First off, this is from pacquiao's adviser, not pacman himself. You shouldn't lose respect for pac because of what his adviser has said. That's just plain ******.Originally posted by Bhopreign View PostI was fast becoming a Pacquiao fan and now this, not sure if I can get over this, too blatant that they dont want real challenges.
Second, wait and see what happens, it could very well be part of the negotiation process, or Pac may not even really want to fight mosley, maybe he wants to see what happens with mayweather.
Third, pac is a 140 pound fighter. Mosley obviously wants Pac more than anything but Pac, **** he doesn't need mosley at this point. He could fight Mayweather/Marquez, Cotto, Valero, etc etc etc. Why should Pac be obligated to fight Mosley at a higher weight? He's not, which is why all the bargaining chips are in pacman's hands, not mosley.
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co-sign. atleast he's seeking out the big names and the big fights now that he's on top. the last fighter that was #1 lb4lb did nothing of the sort.Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostFirst off, this is from pacquiao's adviser, not pacman himself. You shouldn't lose respect for pac because of what his adviser has said. That's just plain ******.
Second, wait and see what happens, it could very well be part of the negotiation process.
Third, pac is a 140 pound fighter. Mosley obviously wants Pac more than anything but Pac, **** he doesn't need mosley at this point. He could fight Mayweather/Marquez, Cotto, Valero, etc etc etc. Why should Pac be obligated to fight Mosley at a higher weight? He's not, which is why all the bargaining chips are in pacman's hands, not mosley.
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This is just the beginning, when his advisers see how well Mayweather does at 144, they'll say Mayweather should fight Pac 130lbs tops........This is bull ****, he can fight at 142 but not 144, the only difference I see occuring will be how weak shane will be dropping more weight. Pac has lost his P4P title with this statement by his team.
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The reason for the Mosley interest is simple: He destroyed the supposed "best" and "most feared" at 147 champion there was in Antonio Margacheato.Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostFirst off, this is from pacquiao's adviser, not pacman himself. You shouldn't lose respect for pac because of what his adviser has said. That's just plain ******.
Second, wait and see what happens, it could very well be part of the negotiation process, or Pac may not even really want to fight mosley, maybe he wants to see what happens with mayweather.
Third, pac is a 140 pound fighter. Mosley obviously wants Pac more than anything but Pac, **** he doesn't need mosley at this point. He could fight Mayweather/Marquez, Cotto, Valero, etc etc etc. Why should Pac be obligated to fight Mosley at a higher weight? He's not, which is why all the bargaining chips are in pacman's hands, not mosley.
Beating the best at 147 and retiring makes you the ONLY 7 time weight champion and the ONLY fighter to beat Henry Armstrong's record of starting at such a low weight and capturing so many titles at weights you weren't supposed to win at. If anyone BUT Shane Mosley held the Ring title at 147, then you'd be saying ok fight this guy.
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Originally posted by Hotbox2 View PostManny is a sorry ass fighter. He's trying to pull that same bull**** he pulled on Oscar. He fought Oscar and let Oscar come in at 147, why don't he do the same for Mosley! This is not boxing when the only way you can win a fight is if you drain the guy. But yet you don't hear him talking about fighting Joan Guzman or Nate Campbell and they would come up to fight Manny. This is total bull**** and so is Manny
You don't understand what the real score is, Pacquiao is in his defining moments...His fight w/ the greats (Marquez 2x, Barrera 2x & Morales 3x) was all about a successful career & made him great...Moving up in weights was more on a risky mission to make a stand among the All Time Greats...That's why he has all the options to consider & pick his opponents at a very great way...It's up to him, money wise & relatively good for the fans to watch...As you see he has successfully done it w/ style...As of now he has nothing to prove anymore, he's already an ATG...
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You're missing the point. If he doesn't want to fight Mosley at a weight Mosley can manage without being weight drained, he can just say no to the fight. It's really very simple.Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostFirst off, this is from pacquiao's adviser, not pacman himself. You shouldn't lose respect for pac because of what his adviser has said. That's just plain ******.
Second, wait and see what happens, it could very well be part of the negotiation process, or Pac may not even really want to fight mosley, maybe he wants to see what happens with mayweather.
Third, pac is a 140 pound fighter. Mosley obviously wants Pac more than anything but Pac, **** he doesn't need mosley at this point. He could fight Mayweather/Marquez, Cotto, Valero, etc etc etc. Why should Pac be obligated to fight Mosley at a higher weight? He's not, which is why all the bargaining chips are in pacman's hands, not mosley.
But asking someone to come in weight drained makes a complete farce of a great sport.
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Well since Pac doesn't speak for himself we do have to assume he's speaking what's on Pac's mind. If he doesn't want to fight Mosely, that is equal to a duck move, the fight would make money and legitmize his P4P status. True the bargaining chips are in Pac's favor, so we have to assume from this statement that he'd rather have an unhealthy fighter rather than a true challenge, which is in fact a ***** Move. It's ok though, Mayweather is going to put an end to all this Pacman noise soon enough.Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostFirst off, this is from pacquiao's adviser, not pacman himself. You shouldn't lose respect for pac because of what his adviser has said. That's just plain ******.
Second, wait and see what happens, it could very well be part of the negotiation process, or Pac may not even really want to fight mosley, maybe he wants to see what happens with mayweather.
Third, pac is a 140 pound fighter. Mosley obviously wants Pac more than anything but Pac, **** he doesn't need mosley at this point. He could fight Mayweather/Marquez, Cotto, Valero, etc etc etc. Why should Pac be obligated to fight Mosley at a higher weight? He's not, which is why all the bargaining chips are in pacman's hands, not mosley.
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