too bad manny got ko'd when he was 18 and 21, and after the second one he moved up two weight divisions and won the the title. and he avenged his morales decision with 2 ko's, he demolished the 2 most notable names on floyds resume, and has also had great fights with marquez and barrera. i dont know who is better until they get in the ring together but manny has had a much more impressive career in terms of excitement, and competition. does the guy ever have a bad fight? floyd does. manny loves to fight, floyd doesnt.
i rest my case.
You're missing the point. If he doesn't want to fight Mosley at a weight Mosley can manage without being weight drained, he can just say no to the fight. It's really very simple.
But asking someone to come in weight drained makes a complete farce of a great sport.
This. 100% agree. Weightdraining can KILL YOU. It decreases the water weight in your body and especially your skull area, thus decreasing the padding your body needs to absorb damage. Boxers can and do die in this sport for this very reason. Does a high profile boxer need to excessively weightdrain and die in dramatic fashion to get this point across? Is Somalia or any other weightdrained place on Earth appealing? Ok, now apply that to fighting somebody. See the problem yet?
actually he got knocked down against judah and they didnt count it also against hernandez he took a knee so its counted as a knockdown
I'll give you the judah slip that was sooo fast no one saw it until the super slow motion showed a glove touch the canvas. Mayweather broke his hand on Hernandez's face and took a knee to briefly recover, then he soundly beat him with ONE HAND.
co-sign. atleast he's seeking out the big names and the big fights now that he's on top. the last fighter that was #1 lb4lb did nothing of the sort.
The last fighter didn't try to make his opponents come in weight drained. Doing that is far worse than anything Floyd ever did.
Pac deserves zero respect if he tries to get big names from other divisions to fight him in a weight drained condition. If hie doesn't think he can be competitive above Jnr Welterweight, he should fight the top Jnr Welterweights. Floyd gets criticised for not fighting the top fighters in his own division, but if Pac refuses to fight the top fighters in his own division, and tries to make fighters from higher divisions come down in weight and fight him in a weight drained condition, you think that's good? At least when Floyd fought De La Hoya he didn't ask DLH to come in weight drained, he fought him at 154.
I used to have massive respect for Pac, but Roach and Pac's advisers are being scumbags at the moment, and if Pac goes along with them, he'll be a scumbag as well.
the whole point of catchweight is to make a fight fair for both fighters but with pac it only benfits him. his team just exposed thier intenions for the catchweight is to have a weight drained oppent. you got to be ****** to not see that or just a pac nuthugger. no dip s**t iam not a pac hater just voicing my opinion. yes morons mosley shoudt be looking to fight pac to begin with. yes morons pbf is a ***** for fighting a blown up feather weight. now go kill yourself if you are a pac nuthugger.i think this cover my ass from the pac nuthuggers. the end
Roach thinks 140 is now Pac's natural weight. I trust Roach's opinion on that a lot more than the opinion of some anonymous internet poster. If he doesn't think he can cut it at Welterweight, he should not fight Welterweights. And if being weight drained is not an excuse, maybe he should try to get a fight with Vlitali Klitschko at 144. You're being ridiculous. The only possible reason for asking Mosley to shed weight is in the hope of making him weight drained.
absolutley ,thats the obvious goal for pacya and team, very well put.
this is getting way too ridiculous they arent even hiding the fact anymore they just dont want to risk it at all.pacs an elite fighter theres no reason for him not to fight people as elite as he is ,he said it himself:" i can fight at 147 140 or 135 ", i dont see the problem , the sudden reversals are really off putting
Why do we care what is being talked about now when Pac team will not decide who to fight until after Jmm/PBF fight? It's also been said that the fight at 147 was a one time thing. We're getting our panties in a bunch for senseless reasons. Or do we really just want to cry about something.....???
The reason for the Mosley interest is simple: He destroyed the supposed "best" and "most feared" at 147 champion there was in Antonio Margacheato.
Beating the best at 147 and retiring makes you the ONLY 7 time weight champion and the ONLY fighter to beat Henry Armstrong's record of starting at such a low weight and capturing so many titles at weights you weren't supposed to win at. If anyone BUT Shane Mosley held the Ring title at 147, then you'd be saying ok fight this guy.
Mosley is not The Ring champion, the title is vacant. He needs to rematch Cotto before there will be a Ring champion.
The last fighter didn't try to make his opponents come in weight drained. Doing that is far worse than anything Floyd ever did.
Pac deserves zero respect if he tries to get big names from other divisions to fight him in a weight drained condition. If hie doesn't think he can be competitive above Jnr Welterweight, he should fight the top Jnr Welterweights. Floyd gets criticised for not fighting the top fighters in his own division, but if Pac refuses to fight the top fighters in his own division, and tries to make fighters from higher divisions come down in weight and fight him in a weight drained condition, you think that's good? At least when Floyd fought De La Hoya he didn't ask DLH to come in weight drained, he fought him at 154.
I used to have massive respect for Pac, but Roach and Pac's advisers are being scumbags at the moment, and if Pac goes along with them, he'll be a scumbag as well.
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