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  • #41
    Originally posted by marsman View Post
    Cottos a Big man with a soft body. I doubt he will be able to take what Clottey Dishes out, I expect cotto to have a strong first 3 rounds and crumble to precise punching. Also In the Later rounds of Cotto vs Paulie, Paulie rocked him in about the 8th round so I believe as hard as clottey hits, Cotto doesn't have to be hit that hard to be knocked out, I think he has to be hit precisely and consistently which is what the Hitter does best.
    Really??? LOL he went 11 rounds with Margarito with a busted nose and "presumed" being hit with loaded gloves and was still in the fight up to the very end, and he wasn't KO'd cold or counted out.

    Man, I'm convinced you guys WANT Cotto to lose because apparently a lot of you guys have never watched an actual Joshua Clottey fight.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by marsman View Post
      Cottos a Big man with a soft body. I doubt he will be able to take what Clottey Dishes out, I expect cotto to have a strong first 3 rounds and crumble to precise punching. Also In the Later rounds of Cotto vs Paulie, Paulie rocked him in about the 8th round so I believe as hard as clottey hits, Cotto doesn't have to be hit that hard to be knocked out, I think he has to be hit precisely and consistently which is what the Hitter does best.
      Are you comparing the cotto of 140 to the cotto of 147? They are very different. Yes cotto has been hit hard at 147 but against known punchers. Judah has explosive power within the first 5 rounds and mosley we know he still has it.

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      • #43
        Listen to what you're saying. cotto is not the Terminator. If he went 12 rounds getting hit with plaster the effects of that are going to show up in his later fights. Not to mention he was involved in alot of wars nad has been nearly taken out plenty of times. These thing will count against him. Just like when Margo fought Mosley he got k.o'd and looked bad because he took most of Cotto's punches on the chin walking through it. You can will that kinda **** out the present fight but the next fight you're punch resistance is gonna be out the door. Imagine playing a video game when u fight the boss. U might have to use up all the rest of your energy down to the tip. Now this isn't a video game, so imagine going into the next board with the same little bit of energy u had in your last moments against the boss.....You will be taken out easily by even the smallest weakest of characters. Now iff your skills are up to par u can maybe last to the next boss....

        Case in point, Miguel Cotto had nothing left against Margarito and bowed out on his knees bloodied up, he fought a nobody in Jennings, who made him look good but now hes fighting a boss, an elite Fighter in Clottey who will finish what little bit of boxing energy Cotto has left.


        And This mi amigos has been another analysis by...dadaddunt da da MARSMAN!
        Last edited by marsman; 06-05-2009, 08:46 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by marsman View Post
          Listen to what you're saying. cotto is not the Terminator. If he went 12 rounds getting hit with plaster the effects of that are going to show up in his later fights. Not to mention he was involved in alot of wars nad has been nearly taken out plenty of times. These thing will count against him. Just like when Margo fought Mosley he got k.o'd and looked bad because he took most of Cotto's punches on the chin walking through it. You can will that kinda **** out the present fight but the next fight you're punch resistance is gonna be out the door. Imagine playing a video game when u fight the boss. U might have to use up all the rest of your energy down to the tip. Now this isn't a video game, so imagine going into the next board with the same little bit of energy u had in your last moments against the boss.....You will be taken out easily by even the smallest weakest of characters. Now iff your skills are up to par u can maybe last to the next boss....

          Case in point, Miguel Cotto had nothing left against Margarito and bowed out on his knees bloodied up, he fought a nobody in Jennings, who made him look good but now hes fighting a boss, an elite Fighter in Clottey who will finish what little bit Cotto has left.


          And This mi amigos has been another analysis by...dadaddunt da da MARSMAN!
          Clottey is an elite fighter now?

          His biggest victories came at the expense of a blown up Chico Corrales (RIP) and a washed up Zab Judah and neither were taken out...but now he's an elite?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Ravishing View Post
            Clottey is an elite fighter now?

            His biggest victories came at the expense of a blown up Chico Corrales (RIP) and a washed up Zab Judah and neither were taken out...but now he's an elite?
            It's arguable when you look at his wins, but he is considered elite to a lot of ring side observers, because of what they see in his performances.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ~Alar~ View Post
              It won`t be an easy fight for both of them, but i still think that Cotto will win... I don`t understand why is Clottey such a big underdog... It is simply ridiculous...
              because no one knows who clottey is besides hardcore boxing fans(thats like a few hundred people.) similar to buster doulas when he fought tyson.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Tek My Pounches View Post
                It's arguable when you look at his wins, but he is considered elite to a lot of ring side observers, because of what they see in his performances.
                I think him beating Cotto will make him one of the elites in the WW division. But when you're not KO'ing guys and putting on dominant and crowd pleasing performances like Cotto and Mosley have, its tough to put him in those rankings. I put him slightly above Berto based on him having more names on his resume and having more experience, but I still think he's a level or two below skill wise and overall ability to Cotto and Mosley.

                Though i agree people are underestimating Clottey, the same goes for people underestimating Cotto simply because of his loss to Margarito and aren't looking at the fight based on both guys' ability in the ring and what each can do.

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                • #48
                  It isn't proven Zab Judah is washed up. I think people say this because Zab is lazy and doesn't always train, but miguel has taken way more punishment then Zab throughout his career.

                  Now Clottey is elite because he took out Zab in an intriguing entertaining fight. His skills are obviously there, against Margarito he was impressive beating up the big man til he injured himself...Thats elite. He stood toe to toe and was winning. Cotto ran and lost. Against Zab, Cotto nearly got knocked out in the first round and had to cheat to win. CLottey against Zab punished him how cotto did, minus the nearly getting knocked out and the cheating. It was a clean fight.

                  So they do have things on their resume you can compare. Also I think Zab looked better against Clottey then he did against Cotto.Zab was laid off from figthing for a year when he fought Cotto and took the fight which was a mainevent ppv fight without getting any rounds in before. When he fought Clottey he came off of two wins against Ryan Davis and Edwin Vasquez. So In my opinion Clottey took out a better Zab than Miguel. Thats my opinion

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                  • #49
                    ive "planned" to do many things as well

                    unfortunately things dont turn out as planned, especially when it involves coke head puerto rican papis

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      What a lot of people are forgetting is that Miguel Cotto is not
                      known for his superior boxing skills, he's known for his aggression
                      and power. It's not like he is going to be putting on a boxing clinic
                      or something. He is going to have to bring the fight to Clottey to
                      get a victory and Joshua is a durable guy. I haven't seen Cotto
                      hurt any elite welterweight with his power since his fight with
                      Quintana and that's whatever. He hasn't hurt Mosley or Margarito
                      & Clottey wasn't even stopped by Margarito injured. I don't see
                      why some are saying that Cotto will TKO Clottey? I don't see it
                      happening at all. I think the durability of Clottey is going to wear
                      down Cotto in the later rounds. Once Cotto sees that he can't
                      out pressure or hurt Clottey the tables will turn from him being
                      a boxer to a brawler which is going to give the edge to Clottey.
                      This fight is something I've been waiting for since announced.
                      And please, no excuses when Cotto loses because if he wins
                      you want hear none from this side if it's legit and the judges
                      don't trip.

                      Very well said, I just don't agree with you saying Cotto hasn't or can't hurt another WW. Cotto is a very powerful/skill full fighter and if he's learned anything from the Plasterito fight, he needs to pace himself and also clinch once and a while and Cotto will come out of this war a Champion. It just makes me so happy to see peeps are finally realizing that this could be or will be the fight of the year. You gotta take your hat off to Cotto for taking such a dangerous opponent after such a brutal loss. Not many another fighters can say or do the same. If Cotto loses, which I refuse to believe he will, you won't hear **** from me! Clottey is animal and uses his big muscle head for more than just thinking, he headbutts more than any other fighter Cotto has ever faced. ****WAR COTTO****
                      Last edited by PRPOWERPUNCHES; 06-05-2009, 09:01 AM.

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