How good was Hamed?

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  • Soda Popinski
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    #11
    Originally posted by GreatJoe
    re-read this.

    You will realise it doesn't make sense.

    You do know the difference between am and pro don't you?
    Of course, but I'm not making the claim. Re-read my post and you'll see me say "I read somewhere" and "that was someone's blog". And do you have anything to say about Nas or are you one of those guys who floats around, thread to thread trying to be the post-accuracy police??

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    • D-MiZe
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      #12
      Originally posted by baracuda
      you wish!...hamed was great,fun and exciting to watch!
      No, I don't wish.

      Who has Pac beaten as an FW?

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      • DLT
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        #13
        Hamed was a bad boy but I dont see him matching up well with any of the elite fighters. He was an awesome "B" level fighter. If he fought MAB, EM, Pac, JMM, Chico, Floyd, then he wouldve lost to all of them and probably rather easily

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        • zojo
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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          Hamed was a bad boy but I dont see him matching up well with any of the elite fighters. He was an awesome "B" level fighter. If he fought MAB, EM, Pac, JMM, Chico, Floyd, then he wouldve lost to all of them and probably rather easily
          how does one loss to barrera where he hardly trained before the fight make him a b level fighter?

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          • MOTHER DUCKER
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            #15
            But why is this? from what iv'e seen amazing speed and reflexes + great power, if he was focused surely he would stand a good chance?

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            • hammerhiem
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              #16
              Crazy power with both hands, granite chin and great relexes with an unorthadox style that allowed him to punch from strange angles.

              His one loss was to an ATG with a great plan, the fight was way closer than people make it out to be and if he had Ingle in his corner for the last 3 rounds he could have still won the fight, as it was he ignored instructions and tried to KO MAB with every punch and that was never going to work.

              People forget MAB was only 1 round up with three to go and MAB had a point deducted in the 11th, had Hamed not lost his head he could have won.

              He should have been the first person to win all four major titles but the WBA (I think) pulled some BS the week before the Wilfredo Vazquez fight to prevent him winning that strap.

              He was massively entertaining and has a highlight reel bettered only by Tyson in the modern era.

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              • Ray*
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                #17
                Great power, Great chin (He has been caught many times jumping him), Good Reflexes to go with his awkward style and a great entertainer...The money got to him though and when that happens it was his downfall.

                He refuse to train toward the end of his career and just relies on his awesome power and it was just a matter of time before it caught up with him, I thought it did in the Augie sanchez fight but Hamed was able to pull it off with his power again but not enough in the Barrera fight who was caution enough not to mix it with Naz.

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                • The Gully Gad
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                  #18
                  Naz didnt bother to train for that barrera fight evident in the Little Prince Big fight doc
                  Thought he was gonna go to war and slug it out and knock Barrera out which would of worked had Barrera not turned into a master boxer that night and came out with the gameplan not to brawl and be drawn in but to box the ears off Hamed...

                  Hamed had no plan B game over.....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Soda Popinski
                    Of course, but I'm not making the claim. Re-read my post and you'll see me say "I read somewhere" and "that was someone's blog". And do you have anything to say about Nas or are you one of those guys who floats around, thread to thread trying to be the post-accuracy police??
                    Don't act like a prick, I'll take you to school.

                    The facts came from somewhere else.

                    But its your opinion that comes across as Hamed having overrated power, and that some of his pro wins might be "rigged" due to the fact he had a higher KO % as a pro.

                    Ok, so its a fact he had a Higher KO % as a pro, Most boxers do.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Gully Gad
                      Naz didnt bother to train for that barrera fight evident in the Little Prince Big fight doc
                      Thought he was gonna go to war and slug it out and knock Barrera out which would of worked had Barrera not turned into a master boxer that night and came out with the gameplan not to brawl and be drawn in but to box the ears off Hamed...

                      Hamed had no plan B game over.....

                      Yep!!! lol he must have thought yeahhhhhh its Barrera and we are going to WAR and am going to Knock him out, He must have been shocked with what he saw when he got in...He must have said **** "I think this is JMM" by the 10th round...

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