Berto dancing and holding his way in a snoozefest

[THE REED]

He is 25 going on 26 and he holds a WBC title at WW when will he be in his prime anyway? He aint that young my man he may be a little bit green but even that excuse it getting old he has a belt it is what it is....When you have a belt you are considered one of the best and you have to take on all challengers and you are expected to win....Lefty



Dude it was hardly a stumble backwards Reed the ropes held him up and he was clearly hurt . Look at the below from 4:05 on he is grabbing and holding Collazo is sticking both his arms out pleading with the reff....Lefty

Nah man... he got hit CLEAN.. but it didnt hurt him... he got hit, and it threw him off balance stumbling backwards.. when Collazo came rushing in, Berto tied him up... which is exactly what he SHOULD HAVE done.

Did you watch RIGHT AFTER the ref split them up?

Berto wasnt swaying in the wind.. he went right back to boxing, and had the same posture and everything.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Reed he was holding on for dear life 85% of the time....Lefty

[THE REED]

Lefty.... he stumbled back on the ropes from being off balance, it was a clean shot that landed.. he tied up.. and went back to boxing immediately when the ref split them up.

Berto didnt go into a shell on the ropes, holding his hands up. He immediately went back to boxing............ REED.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Lefty.... he stumbled back on the ropes from being off balance, it was a clean shot that landed.. he tied up.. and went back to boxing immediately when the ref split them up.

Berto didnt go into a shell on the ropes, holding his hands up. He immediately went back to boxing............ REED.

He TIED him up they got split and then for the rest of the round he was constantly tying him up. I mean to the point that the reff warned him for holding. The HBO announcers especially Lennox made it a point to say it doesnt warrant a warning for holding when you are hurt. he was HURT anyone with two eyes could see that. Maybe not to the point where he could be finished but shaken up enough to just not ant to get hit like that again and start holding. I watched the entire round and I saw him holding.

he gets the straight left at 4:04 from there on out at 4:07, 4:22, 4:37, 4:48 he holds. he seems to regain himself here and goes on the attack with Collazo against the ropes then again at 5:05, 5:47 and 5:57 he initiates some more clinches. DAMN REED he was holidng son....Lefty

[mellow_mood]

i wish berto gives el indio quintana a break...

if he had troubles with these lefties... imagine what quintana would do to him...

and the funny thing is that quintana... is not even on the top 5 welterweights

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

i wish berto gives el indio quintana a break...

if he had troubles with these lefties... imagine what quintana would do to him...

and the funny thing is that quintana... is not even on the top 5 welterweights

That would be a good fight I think fighting 2 lefties in a row is enough for any fighter though Mellow....Still it has to be said he was holding in the Collazo fight as I pointed out in m ylast post. he was clearly hurt and held at the times I mentioned in my post REED....Lefty

[mellow_mood]

That would be a good fight I think fighting 2 lefties in a row is enough for any fighter though Mellow....Still it has to be said he was holding in the Collazo fight as I pointed out in m ylast post. he was clearly hurt and held at the times I mentioned in my post REED....Lefty

1. Luis Collazo (US)
2. Selcuk Aydin (Turkey) INTL
3. Jackson Osei Bonsu (Belgium)
4. Jesus Soto Karass (Mexico)
5. Saul Alvarez (Mexico) NABF
6. Luis Carlos Abregu (Argentina) FESUBOX
7. Juan Urango (Colombia)
8. Rafal Jackiewicz (Poland)
9. Ivan Kirpa (Russia)
10. Miguel Rodriguez (Mexico)
11. Vitaliy Demyanenko (Kazakhstan) ABCO
12. Said Ouali (Morocco)
13. Motoki Sasaki (Japan) OPBF
14. Sebastian Lujan (Argentina)
15. Damian Frias (Cuba) LATINO
16. Carlos Quintana (P. Rico)
17. Zab Judah (US)
18. Joey Hernandez (US)
19. Carlos Baldomir (Argentina)
20. Irving Garcia (P. Rico)
21. Gianluca Branco (Italy)
22. James de la Rosa (Mexico)
23. Carlos Molina (US)
24. Delvin Rodriguez (US)
25. Kell Brook (GB) BBB C
26. Mike Jones (US)
27. Orlando Lora (Mexico) AMERICA
28. Ed Paredes (US) YOUTH interim / CABOFE
29. Antonio Diaz (Mexico)
30. John O'Donnell (GB) COMM
31. Antonin Decaire (Canada)
32. Michel Rosales (Mexico) USNBC/ABMH
33. Leonard Bundu (Sierra Leone)
34. Alberto Morales (Nicaragua)
35. Christian Van Heerden (South Africa) ABU
36. Hector David Saldivia (Argentina)
37. Krzysztof Bienias (Poland)
38. Daisuke Nakagawa (Japan)
39. Oliver Guettel (Germany) YOUTH
40. Sherzodbek Alimjanov (Uzbistan) CISBB


wbc.. rankings....

so.. are we going to see collazo vs berto II?

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

1. Luis Collazo (US)
2. Selcuk Aydin (Turkey) INTL
3. Jackson Osei Bonsu (Belgium)
4. Jesus Soto Karass (Mexico)
5. Saul Alvarez (Mexico) NABF
6. Luis Carlos Abregu (Argentina) FESUBOX
7. Juan Urango (Colombia)
8. Rafal Jackiewicz (Poland)
9. Ivan Kirpa (Russia)
10. Miguel Rodriguez (Mexico)
11. Vitaliy Demyanenko (Kazakhstan) ABCO
12. Said Ouali (Morocco)
13. Motoki Sasaki (Japan) OPBF
14. Sebastian Lujan (Argentina)
15. Damian Frias (Cuba) LATINO
16. Carlos Quintana (P. Rico)
17. Zab Judah (US)
18. Joey Hernandez (US)
19. Carlos Baldomir (Argentina)
20. Irving Garcia (P. Rico)
21. Gianluca Branco (Italy)
22. James de la Rosa (Mexico)
23. Carlos Molina (US)
24. Delvin Rodriguez (US)
25. Kell Brook (GB) BBB C
26. Mike Jones (US)
27. Orlando Lora (Mexico) AMERICA
28. Ed Paredes (US) YOUTH interim / CABOFE
29. Antonio Diaz (Mexico)
30. John O'Donnell (GB) COMM
31. Antonin Decaire (Canada)
32. Michel Rosales (Mexico) USNBC/ABMH
33. Leonard Bundu (Sierra Leone)
34. Alberto Morales (Nicaragua)
35. Christian Van Heerden (South Africa) ABU
36. Hector David Saldivia (Argentina)
37. Krzysztof Bienias (Poland)
38. Daisuke Nakagawa (Japan)
39. Oliver Guettel (Germany) YOUTH
40. Sherzodbek Alimjanov (Uzbistan) CISBB


wbc.. rankings....

so.. are we going to see collazo vs berto II?

Mellow I see where you are going with this but I am still waiting for someoen to answer my post about the holding tell it how it is after they see that I am right. I have no problem with admitting when I see it wrong but I am waiting fr someone else to come around and bless me with some k for being right or prove me wrong...lefty

[Texanballer]

I'd rather watch Floyd Mayweather fight any night instead of Andre Berto. And that says a lot to me.

[THE REED]

He was clinching but it wasnt because he was hurt IMO... he didnt look hurt, he didnt act hurt, he wasnt stumbling, he didnt look faded or out of it... he had his balance the entire time... He was clinching to try and stop Colazzos momentum, he threw a punch and clinched to not give luis a chance to fire back or counter...

He was stunned, when that clean punch landed.

Collazo kept coming at him full speed, full force, and Berto was trying to slow his pace down.

I did not see him holding because he was hurt and out of it.