HBO fight night weights are UNOFFICIAL

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  • Bhopreign
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    #51
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Because of the reasons below. They cast doubts IMO.
    What makes you think the other fighter knows his opponent's unofficial weight on fight night that particular night. It can be a negative if a fighter thought you gained a whole lot and speed was your asset, then he would think you will be slow in the fight or have stamina issues.

    Again Im going on trends also, fighers usually go up about the same in every fight the same amount just about. Pacquiao before Oscar normally went up 14-16 lbs on fight night, so is he wearing clothes most of the time while other fighters who hardly gained anything standing naked on the scales? Of course not, for one we see how frail they are during the official weigh in and for those who gain alot, there is a very noticable change on fight night. Someone like Cotto looks drained during official weigh in, on fight night he is alot bigger and will show a 10-15 lb increase, I believe that is accurate, you can see it.

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    • BattlingNelson
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      #52
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      What makes you think the other fighter knows his opponent's unofficial weight on fight night that particular night. It can be a negative if a fighter thought you gained a whole lot and speed was your asset, then he would think you will be slow in the fight or have stamina issues.

      Again Im going on trends also, fighers usually go up about the same in every fight the same amount just about. Pacquiao before Oscar normally went up 14-16 lbs on fight night, so is he wearing clothes most of the time while other fighters who hardly gained anything standing naked on the scales? Of course not, for one we see how frail they are during the official weigh in and for those who gain alot, there is a very noticable change on fight night. Someone like Cotto looks drained during official weigh in, on fight night he is alot bigger and will show a 10-15 lb increase, I believe that is accurate, you can see it.
      You're making assumptions based on an unofficial weigh-in. You can be certain of nothing about weights except for the official weight.

      You KNOW nothing else, but you can guess and assume all you want.

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      • RodBarker
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        #53
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Because of the reasons below. They cast doubts IMO.
        They are not reasons they are baseless assumptions , you have nothing in the least to back up why you think that might be the case , and in forming that point of view you ignore the facts that we do have to go on !! maybe if might have what if ,,,,, none fly go on as close to fact that we have unless you have hard evidence ,,,,,, do you have anything resembling evidence ?

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          #54
          I don't have much reason to not trust HBO's fight night weigh ins, they don't really have reasons to lie about a fighters' weight. The only way that a fighter's weight can be really misleading on the night of the fight is if they're wearing clothes when they get on the scale, which has happened before, which adds at least 2 pounds, sometimes more if they have things in their pockets.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #55
            Originally posted by RodBarker
            They are not reasons they are baseless assumptions , you have nothing in the least to back up why you think that might be the case , and in forming that point of view you ignore the facts that we do have to go on !! maybe if might have what if ,,,,, none fly go on as close to fact that we have unless you have hard evidence ,,,,,, do you have anything resembling evidence ?
            What are the FACTS about the unofficial weigh-in then?

            Are you sure fighters don't drink 2 pints of water before stepping on the scale?

            Are you sure that they don't put a golden chain up their butt?

            Are you sure they are weighing in shoeless and clothesless?

            Are you sure the unofficial scale is accurate in both dressingrooms?

            What ARE you sure about?
            Last edited by BattlingNelson; 06-02-2009, 04:29 AM.

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            • RodBarker
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              #56
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              You're making assumptions based on an unofficial weigh-in. You can be certain of nothing about weights except for the official weight.

              You KNOW nothing else, but you can guess and assume all you want.
              You know they weigh more at fight time , and they tell you themselves what that weight is ,,,,,,,, and you with no evidence at all state that it is not accurate so ignore it , and then go of and go with the only weight we know is not accurate on fight night ,,,, thats some crazy logic you got going on mate , the one weight in this world that they definitely will not be is the one you fly with ,.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                What are the FACTS about the unofficial weigh-in then?
                The weight they give you thats FACT ,,,,,, Its for you to prove its wrong and you cant !!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  The weight they give you thats FACT ,,,,,, Its for you to prove its wrong and you cant !!!
                  No. It's for you to prove to me that an unofficial weigh-in is accurate. We know that the official weigh-in is.

                  Otherwise I reserve the right not to take any unofficial weight to serious.

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                  • RodBarker
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    No. It's for you to prove to me that an unofficial weigh-in is accurate. We know that the official weigh-in is.

                    Otherwise I reserve the right not to take any unofficial weight to serious.
                    You have that right if you like it doesnt bother me at all , I can only lead a horse to water , the only thing I cant get my head around is you have nothing to offer to support your view , you cant even sway me in the least and I really see no argument , I can tell you why I view something the way I do with facts , anything I evaluate to form a view I know why I formed it , if I have no facts I have no view that I will argue for ,,,,, , do you have any evidence what so ever to back your only reason ,,,,, your own personal doubt is based on what ?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RodBarker
                      You have that right if you like it doesnt bother me at all , I can only lead a horse to water , the only thing I cant get my head around is you have nothing to offer to support your view , you cant even sway me in the least and I really see no argument , I can tell you why I view something the way I do with facts , anything I evaluate to form a view I know why I formed it , if I have no facts I have no view that I will argue for ,,,,, , do you have any evidence what so ever to back your only reason ,,,,, your own personal doubt is based on what ?
                      Do I understand you correctly if I say that you are convinced that the unofficial weights from HBO is accurate and indisputeable?

                      Lol.

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