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  • #31
    Originally posted by strugler View Post
    Yes they are.................as unofficial as ledermans score card.........................this arent facts.......stop basing your argument solely what HBO feeds you........................
    You have a point, but hbo's unofficial weight ins must be assumed to be accurate, since its known that fighters come in on fight night 10+ lbs heavier than at the official weigh in.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      You have a point, but hbo's unofficial weight ins must be assumed to be accurate, since its known that fighters come in on fight night 10+ lbs heavier than at the official weigh in.
      yes i did make a great point.......................

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      • #33
        Originally posted by strugler View Post
        Yes they are.................as unofficial as ledermans score card.........................this arent facts.......stop basing your argument solely what HBO feeds you........................
        Stop basing your argument on weight that everybody knows is different than when they fight , they are much heaver fight night and its a known fact , you can only go on what is put out , which even though not official is far more accurate than people like your self ignoring the fact and saying a weight everybody knows is way gone !!!

        You can quote weigh-in weight and I will guess fight weight and I will be closer than you to the real weight every single time .

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        • #34
          It's not official because if it was, we wouldn't have fights between certain fighters in each division.

          Take away the 24+ hour window period to rehydrate the body, and we now have fighters that were originally in one division now separated by 2-3 divisions.


          I think the scales are pretty accurate.

          When Freddie Roach says Pac is 147+ come fight-night and that is his expected weight come fight-night...and then is weighed at that amount by HBO...I would say there is some validation to it.

          When Floyd says he is 147-149 and then weighs in at that amount for the official weigh-in and the is weighed again for the HBO scales and proves true again...I think that is pretty accurate.


          Scales that could be tampered with are the official scales actually. I've heard stories about tampering with them.

          There is nothing to lose with the HBO scales but there is with the "official"


          Like I've said many times before; if you want to get down to it, fix it and have these fighters weigh-in 1 hour before the fight. We'll see the truth.
          And even on my thread I made about it, I give suggestions on what they could do which broadens it a bit.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
            Stop basing your argument on weight that everybody knows is different than when they fight , they are much heaver fight night and its a known fact , you can only go on what is put out , which even though not official is far more accurate than people like your self ignoring the fact and saying a weight everybody knows is way gone !!!

            You can quote weigh-in weight and I will guess fight weight and I will be closer than you to the real weight every single time .



            you should petition same day weigh in then...............yes they rehydrate.............that is a fact..............by how much, we simply dont know for sure................

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            • #36
              Originally posted by raycorey View Post
              The scales dont lie, Whether they're sanction by the WBC,IBF,HBO its still a scale and the numbers on it doesnt lie even though its not 100% accurate.
              Do they weigh-in without clothes, shoes, ***elries etc.?

              Is the weight a bathroom weight and is it placed completely horizontal?

              Is the weight at the same place when both fighters step on it?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                Do they weigh-in without clothes, shoes, ***elries etc.?

                Is the weight a bathroom weight and is it placed completely horizontal?

                Is the weight at the same place when both fighters step on it?
                Yes, this is the part we've talked about before which leaves the HBO weight in doubt. I admit that.

                Maybe someone should contact HBO and Showtime to see how they do it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by strugler View Post
                  you should petition same day weigh in then...............yes they rehydrate.............that is a fact..............by how much, we simply dont know for sure................
                  But thats the whole point HBO and fighters and trainers quoting fight night weight are infinitely closer than you , so why are you content to be a lot wrong when you can be just a little wrong !!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
                    But thats the whole point HBO and fighters and trainers quoting fight night weight are infinitely closer than you , so why are you content to be a lot wrong when you can be just a little wrong !!
                    why would i be wrong.............i just dont trust it everytime.................niether should you...............why be content with that........i aint for abolishing it.................make it more transparent.................videotape it.............
                    Last edited by strugler; 06-02-2009, 03:23 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      Do they weigh-in without clothes, shoes, ***elries etc.?

                      Is the weight a bathroom weight and is it placed completely horizontal?

                      Is the weight at the same place when both fighters step on it?
                      And by the same token you dont know that its not on fight scales with witnesses and the fighter in jocks ,,,,,,, thats the point of all this it goes both ways ,,,,,,,, the facts we all know is that they are much bigger than when at the dehydrated weigh-in ,,,, so you say ignore that ? ,,,,,or go with what is put out there by people that are in a position to know for real they have no reason to lie , like I said you can only go with what we are told , that and the fact we know their weight is miles away from the official weight .

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