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  • portuge puncher
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    #21
    Originally posted by ACHlLLES
    Yeah, you smoke crack. He beat Hopkins*had a belt at lhw*, and he beat Kessler*had a belt*, and he beat lacy*had a belt at super middleweight*. Wow you racist ****s really don't follow boxing at all.
    we were just speaking about the comment in your thread about "he beat like 6-8 former champs, like 3-4 former champs" lol, it was just funny, so calm your hemroids.

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    • ßringer
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      #22
      Amateur boxing means less than a drop of rat piss when you're judging a fighter's professional career.

      Howard Davis Jr. was one hell of an Amateur, but he was never able to capture a title in the pros.

      There are tons of examples of amazing Amateurs who never made any impact in the professional ranks.

      As a professional ; Joe's career is pretty lackluster overall.

      I sympathize with him for his title reign, and I don't thin khe gets enough credit for that.

      He was very similar to my boy B-Hop in that respect ; they both inherited ****ty divisions, and nobody really paid much attention to them because their skills completely overshadowed the skills of their challengers.

      Eubank, Lacy and Kessler are all solid wins. With Eubank being the best IMO.

      Jones Jr. doesn't account for much, considering Roy's age and level of deterioration.

      Hopkins is probably his best win overall, and a lot of people thought he lost that fight.

      If he'd only stuck around for one or 2 more fights, he may be looked at a bit better these days.

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      • Zn1
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        #23
        Originally posted by ACHlLLES
        21 world title defenses, beat 6-8 former world champions, beat what 3-4 former world champions? Moved up to lhw and beat the best lhw hopkins at his first fight at that weight.
        you said former champions twice lol

        thats why u got a response, check your own post first if u dont want confusion lol

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        • Dan...
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          #24
          Originally posted by boxasmash
          "floyd fought in 5 divisions, calzaghe only fought in 2..."

          did you know calzaghe won 3 ABA titles as an amatuer in 3 different weight classes, welterweight, light middleweight and middleweight? he was fighting full grown men too. he's the only fighter ever to do that.

          he also came across american middleweight champion chris byrd and knocked him out and we all know about chris. calzaghe was robbed of going to the olympics because he wouldnt fight in some remote place for one time when the board knew full well he would have destroyed the guy sent instead representing the UK.
          Anyone who uses that as basis for critcising Calzaghe is just a fool and not worth your time. See Marvin Hagler.

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          • Spacey1991
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            #25
            Originally posted by boxasmash
            "floyd fought in 5 divisions, calzaghe only fought in 2..."

            did you know calzaghe won 3 ABA titles as an amatuer in 3 different weight classes, welterweight, light middleweight and middleweight? he was fighting full grown men too. he's the only fighter ever to do that.

            he also came across american middleweight champion chris byrd and knocked him out and we all know about chris. calzaghe was robbed of going to the olympics because he wouldnt fight in some remote place for one time when the board knew full well he would have destroyed the guy sent instead representing the UK.
            I respect what your saying, I am a fan of Calzaghe and think he is a great fighter... but come on, did you really need to bring Floyd into it? People knock Calzaghe at times... so there was no need to bring that into it. That said, I do understand what your saying.

            Even though I think people are more talking about his professional career, and not his amateur... I get what you mean he is still a great fighter who has achieved a lot, even in the amateurs. However most people talk about his professional career, which I disagree with people when they knock his achievements.

            At the end of the day, Calzaghe is a great fighter... undefeated, many title defenses and has great skills... in my opinion, even winning a world title is a great achievement in itself... even if you was to lose it straight away, how can anyone knock his achievement because the fighter has still won a world title which is a great achievement.

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #26
              130..........135.............140..........147

              doesnt equate to

              168........175........200.........200+

              So the paralell is logically ridiculous in the first place

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              • Joeyzagz
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                #27
                Whats with all these defensive oriented Calzaghe threads?

                Calzaghe is ATG withut exception. The names on his resume' speak for themselves.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  130..........135.............140..........147

                  doesnt equate to

                  168........175........200.........200+

                  So the paralell is logically ridiculous in the first place
                  That is a good point that is rarely made to. It is so easy to cruise through the lower divisions. Not so much when you get up in weight.

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                  • -EX-
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                    #29
                    Calzaghe should be a hall of famer but he is overrated by a few on here...

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      That is a good point that is rarely made to. It is so easy to cruise through the lower divisions. Not so much when you get up in weight.
                      I wouldnt say it was "so easy" lol but it certainly doesnt make as significant a difference as it does at the higher weights which are more spaced out.

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