Mayweather: I was ready to give Hatton a rematch after Marquez and then Retire!

[The Gambler1981]

I disagree whole heartedly. Mosley wasn't when he turned down more money to fight oscar & turn around to fight winky for less. Even if what you're saying were true, I'd say floyd has done the worst job pulling the wool over peoples eyes in history, and that again warrants the criticism.

I should not speak in absolutes you are right, it was not about fighters at all really either, it usually about those behind them, unless the fighter runs their own career like Floyd.

I disagree that Floyd is all that different from most though, they are all very similar to me.

The worst in history come on, the mob used to run boxing do not be over dramatic.

[sandyvahra]

I should not speak in absolutes you are right, it was not about fighters at all really either, it usually about those behind them, unless the fighter runs their own career like Floyd.

I disagree that Floyd is all that different from most though, they are all very similar to me.

The worst in history come on, the mob used to run boxing do not be over dramatic.

Fair enough we can agree to disagree. I think we can both agree that fans of all walks only want to see the best face the best. It's consistent for every sport. Playoffs, tournements, etc. Boxing is no different, everyone still wants to see the best fights. When theyre not made, naturally the finger is going to be pointed at the fighter. It's what hurts boxing the most is that there isn't anyone that can force these megafights, everyone's got a say from promoters to advisors to fighters, etc etc etc.

[talip bin osman]

Fair enough we can agree to disagree. I think we can both agree that fans of all walks only want to see the best face the best. It's consistent for every sport. Playoffs, tournements, etc. Boxing is no different, everyone still wants to see the best fights. When theyre not made, naturally the finger is going to be pointed at the fighter. It's what hurts boxing the most is that there isn't anyone that can force these megafights, everyone's got a say from promoters to advisors to fighters, etc etc etc.

oscar de la hoya fought almost everyone in & around his weightclass over his career... he got rich doing so...

why cant PBF who is at least to my eyes is more talented & has a better skillset than ODLH?

WTF is PBF afraid of?

[sandyvahra]

oscar de la hoya fought almost everyone in & around his weightclass over his career... he got rich doing so...

why cant PBF who is to my at least to my eyes is more talented & has a better skillset than ODLH?

WTF is PBF afraid of?

I agree with you. And the answer is simple, he is all about low risk & high reward.

[The Gambler1981]

Fair enough we can agree to disagree. I think we can both agree that fans of all walks only want to see the best face the best. It's consistent for every sport. Playoffs, tournements, etc. Boxing is no different, everyone still wants to see the best fights. When theyre not made, naturally the finger is going to be pointed at the fighter. It's what hurts boxing the most is that there isn't anyone that can force these megafights.

Boxing is a lot different then those sports, even individual sport (with the exception of other combat sports on the pro level. Things take time to happean in boxing and there is a lot of crazy behind the scene stuff that has a lot to do with what happeans and what does not.

I am a very patient person though I am willing to wait years for a fight aslong as I get to see it (I usually just hope they are somewhere near their best when they go down). Fights that do not happean do not effect me that much because there are always fights to watch, always new guys comming up to get excited about. I have followed Floyd's career since the beginning, won a lot of money betting on him (he has yet to screw me over in any fight, like comming in out of shape or unprepared for a fight, that has a lot to do with my respect for him).

The only way to make a mega fight in boxing is to let the $$$$$$$$ do the talking, then hope the rest can also be worked out. I have come to grips with the problems of boxing years ago, I accept them so I treat all fighters this way. If someone want to hold fighters to high standard jsut be consistent with it, and not bust one guys balls all the time while constantly letting others slide.

If people do not agree with my views it is fine, I just want consistency and not double standards. I also really despise when forumites call pro prize fighters bitches and ******* (would go for any fighter aswell).

[talip bin osman]

I agree with you. And the answer is simple, he is all about low risk & high reward.

PBF is fortunate to have had his dominance @ 130...

i think having a "0" in his record had him very obsessed in protecting it... to the point of faking a retirement...

[sandyvahra]

PBF is fortunate to have had his dominance @ 130...

i think having a "0" in his record had him very obsessed in protecting it... to the point of faking a retirement...

Agreed. he loses the '0' really he's got nothing left. on the flip side i think losing the '0' might let him loose and fight everyone & in turn could be better for him legacy wise? who knows, all i know is he's underachieved to date based on his talent level.

[The Gambler1981]

oscar de la hoya fought almost everyone in & around his weightclass over his career... he got rich doing so...

why cant PBF who is at least to my eyes is more talented & has a better skillset than ODLH?

WTF is PBF afraid of?

Affraid is a strong word, apprehensive unless he gets paid what he wants sure. I mean I feel Floyd on a certain level, to take on his toughest challenges he wants to be paid accordingly, if you are not getting paid accordingly for the toughest fights why take them? I know I would do the same pretty much so how can I fault Floyd for how I would act?

People if they are honest would say the same thing, the vast majority anyways.

[sandyvahra]

Boxing is a lot different then those sports, even individual sport (with the exception of other combat sports on the pro level. Things take time to happean in boxing and there is a lot of crazy behind the scene stuff that has a lot to do with what happeans and what does not.

I am a very patient person though I am willing to wait years for a fight aslong as I get to see it (I usually just hope they are somewhere near their best when they go down). Fights that do not happean do not effect me that much because there are always fights to watch, always new guys comming up to get excited about. I have followed Floyd's career since the beginning, won a lot of money betting on him (he has yet to screw me over in any fight, like comming in out of shape or unprepared for a fight, that has a lot to do with my respect for him).

The only way to make a mega fight in boxing is to let the $$$$$$$$ do the talking, then hope the rest can also be worked out. I have come to grips with the problems of boxing years ago, I accept them so I treat all fighters this way. If someone want to hold fighters to high standard jsut be consistent with it, and not bust one guys balls all the time while constantly letting others slide.

If people do not agree with my views it is fine, I just want consistency and not double standards. I also really despise when forumites call pro prize fighters bitches and ******* (would go for any fighter aswell).

I hear ya, but easier said than done when it's the same fighter that's contradicting himself over n over & disrespecting others at the same time. have a bit of class is all. im with you i dont really look outside what happens in the ring, but this is hard because floyd is so good we want to see him in with x & y, but lately it just hasn't happened (regardless of who's fault it is)

[The Gambler1981]

Agreed. he loses the '0' really he's got nothing left. on the flip side i think losing the '0' might let him loose and fight everyone & in turn could be better for him legacy wise? who knows, all i know is he's underachieved to date based on his talent level.

If he loses I am pretty sure he would try to avenge the loss. Seriously Floyd is an ATG I consider Manny and Floyd basically equals on that level, he has aachieved a lot in his career more then like 99.99% of boxers, for me that is hard to call underachieving.