Cotto-Clottey Explodes; Over 12,000 Tickets Sold

[fightingfigs]

Floyd can sell more tickets than Cotto can.
Floyd can fill a stadium with more than 100 thousand seats. Cotto can not fill a phone booth.

If Cotto fought Hatton or DLH he would. I garantee if he fights pacquiao he will.

[fdotorres]

So your saying that since Gatti lost and the fight never happened
then it excuses Cotto from getting ridiculed for wanting to fight
an even more shot Gatti than the one Floyd fought? Floyd dismantled
Arturo Gatti at 140 & Cotto wanted him at 147 and that fight was
about to happen. Getting and defending belts against bums doesn't
deserve any credit?.........Okay, so what did Miguel Cotto do with
Alfonso Gomez and Michael Jennings? Actually Cotto fought a bum
Michael Jennings for a vacant belt that an elite fighter left "Paul
Williams" Stop trying to sell me Magic Beans because Arturo Gatti
has more of a legacy than those two tomato cans Miguel Cotto
fought.

you can ridicule cotto all you want. it's gonna be pretty ironic coming from a floyd fan, but what the heck, feel free to do it. i won't go around crying about it

did cotto get credit from me for beating jennings and gomez? heck, did he get credit from anyone???

so williams is elite for beating who? quintana after losing to him? 2 year rusty winky? his last 3 opponents whose age put together is 114 years old?

when have i even suggested that gatti is a bum or a guy without legacy? he was shot as hell when floyd fought him, and even more shot at 147

[BadBoy0C]

you can ridicule cotto all you want. it's gonna be pretty ironic coming from a floyd fan, but what the heck, feel free to do it. i won't go around crying about it

did cotto get credit from me for beating jennings and gomez? heck, did he get credit from anyone???

so williams is elite for beating who? quintana after losing to him? 2 year rusty winky? his last 3 opponents whose age put together is 114 years old?

when have i even suggested that gatti is a bum or a guy without legacy? he was shot as hell when floyd fought him, and even more shot at 147

in reality if u wana get down to names, cottos only win against a top opponent wuz mosley and dat fight wuz close, mayweather has faught more top guys than cotto

[fdotorres]

in reality if u wana get down to names, cottos only win against a top opponent wuz mosley and dat fight wuz close, mayweather has faught more top guys than cotto

i'm aware of that. if you read more into my post history, you'll see that i acknowledge floyd for his achievements at his lower classes, but criticize him from 140-147. if you ask me, floyd isn't even close to cotto from 140-147 resume-wise

if he wants to be considered at the top of the sport now, he'll need to destroy pac and marquez or clean the WW class.

there's really no point in staying at some weight in which you don't want none of anyone. he should go down to 140 and clean the division or just fight welters

[GRUSTLER]

you can ridicule cotto all you want. it's gonna be pretty ironic coming from a floyd fan, but what the heck, feel free to do it. i won't go around crying about it

did cotto get credit from me for beating jennings and gomez? heck, did he get credit from anyone???

so williams is elite for beating who? quintana after losing to him? 2 year rusty winky? his last 3 opponents whose age put together is 114 years old?

when have i even suggested that gatti is a bum or a guy without legacy? he was shot as hell when floyd fought him, and even more shot at 147

I'm not trying to ridicule anyone but from what your implying,
it seems that your saying Floyd fought a shot Gatti and shouldn't
get no credit for the win and Cotto gets a pass because the fight
never got made because of Gatti? Bottom line is that this is boxing
and not everyone is going to fight top guys all the time, plenty of
elite fighters go up against tune ups or shot bums but it doesn't
take away from them as fighters skill wise, does it? Paul Williams
is a top fighter no matter who he beat or not.

I know that you consider Cotto a top fighter right? Well Paul
beat Margarito and Margarito beat Cotto. Cotto beat Quintana
and Quintana beat Williams and then Williams beat Quintana, ****
happens but the opposition shouldn't take away from the type of
caliber the fighter is. Seems like you like to make a lot of excuses
about certain fighters when in actuality Cotto hasn't fought anyone
of Winky Wright's caliber. Winky served Mosley twice years before
Cotto squeaked by Mosley in their fight and at that an OLDER Mosley.
Williams gave Winky a beat down that he hasn't seen in like forever.
That I call is elite.

[BadBoy0C]

i'm aware of that. if you read more into my post history, you'll see that i acknowledge floyd for his achievements at his lower classes, but criticize him from 140-147. if you ask me, floyd isn't even close to cotto from 140-147 resume-wise

if he wants to be considered at the top of the sport now, he'll need to destroy pac and marquez or clean the WW class.

there's really no point in staying at some weight in which you don't want none of anyone. he should go down to 140 and clean the division or just fight welters

ye i agree he soulda stayed at 140 and cleaned it out, but by that point all he cared about wuz getting big money fights and not really enhancing his legacy but i think all us fans know that, i just dont like it when cotto fans act like cotto is a legend already and try to mention him with the greats

[GRUSTLER]

i'm aware of that. if you read more into my post history, you'll see that i acknowledge floyd for his achievements at his lower classes, but criticize him from 140-147. if you ask me, floyd isn't even close to cotto from 140-147 resume-wise

if he wants to be considered at the top of the sport now, he'll need to destroy pac and marquez or clean the WW class.

there's really no point in staying at some weight in which you don't want none of anyone. he should go down to 140 and clean the division or just fight welters

The only fighter that Cotto has over Floyd at 147 is a win over
Mosley and a boast that he fought with Margarito which he lost.
Both Floyd/Cotto fought Zab and on top of that Cotto has
Gomez/Jennings on his resume and how impressive is that
over the lineal champ Carlos Baldomir? Oktay Urkay? Come on
man. The only reason why Cotto has more wins than Floyd at
140 is because he spent a lot of his career there while Floyd
was breezing through and Floyd still won all his titles while
Cotto fought for vacant ones, EVEN AT 147! On top of that!
Cotto wasn't even ready for Floyd at 140 and Floyd was
there for only for 3 fights? Stop the Floyd bashing please.

[BadBoy0C]

[QUOTE=GRUSTLER;5343318]The only fighter that Cotto has over Floyd at 147 is a win over
Mosley and a boast that he fought with Margarito which he lost.
Both Floyd/Cotto fought Zab and on top of that Cotto has
Gomez/Jennings on his resume and how impressive is that
over the lineal champ Carlos Baldomir? Oktay Urkay? Come on
man. The only reason why Cotto has more wins than Floyd at
140 is because he spent a lot of his career there while Floyd
was breezing through and Floyd still won all his titles while
Cotto fought for vacant ones, EVEN AT 147! On top of that!
Cotto wasn't even ready for Floyd at 140 and Floyd was
there for only for 3 fights? Stop the Floyd bashing please.[/

good point, floyd wuz moving through divisions and cotto stayed at 140 a long time

[fdotorres]

I'm not trying to ridicule anyone but from what your implying,
it seems that your saying Floyd fought a shot Gatti and shouldn't
get no credit for the win and Cotto gets a pass because the fight
never got made because of Gatti? Bottom line is that this is boxing
and not everyone is going to fight top guys all the time, plenty of
elite fighters go up against tune ups or shot bums but it doesn't
take away from them as fighters skill wise, does it? Paul Williams
is a top fighter no matter who he beat or not.

I know that you consider Cotto a top fighter right? Well Paul
beat Margarito and Margarito beat Cotto. Cotto beat Quintana
and Quintana beat Williams and then Williams beat Quintana, ****
happens but the opposition shouldn't take away from the type of
caliber the fighter is. Seems like you like to make a lot of excuses
about certain fighters when in actuality Cotto hasn't fought anyone
of Winky Wright's caliber. Winky served Mosley twice years before
Cotto squeaked by Mosley in their fight and at that an OLDER Mosley.
Williams gave Winky a beat down that he hasn't seen in like forever.
That I call is elite.

winky's caliber? paul didn't face a prime winky. he faced a winky that was coming off a loss and a 2 year layoff... how could you call anyone elite just for beating an old AND inactive guy?

cotto doesn't get a pass for not fighting gatti. if he DID fight him, he would get no credit whatsoever from me at least.

cotto has fought much tougher competition than williams up to this moment. i'm not saying williams is unskilled. i said that he isn't elite. elite status is achieved by PROVING your skills against opponents who are fighting at a high level and being successful at it. winky wasn't doing either when he fought williams

[fdotorres]

The only fighter that Cotto has over Floyd at 147 is a win over
Mosley and a boast that he fought with Margarito which he lost.
Both Floyd/Cotto fought Zab and on top of that Cotto has
Gomez/Jennings on his resume and how impressive is that
over the lineal champ Carlos Baldomir? Oktay Urkay? Come on
man. The only reason why Cotto has more wins than Floyd at
140 is because he spent a lot of his career there while Floyd
was breezing through and Floyd still won all his titles while
Cotto fought for vacant ones, EVEN AT 147! On top of that!
Cotto wasn't even ready for Floyd at 140 and Floyd was
there for only for 3 fights? Stop the Floyd bashing please.

is a tko win against quintana (seems that you forgot to include that one, but didn't forget to mention the vacant title fight) less impressive than a 12 round UD against baldomir just because it was for a vacant title?