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  • WhoreUs
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    #91
    Originally posted by Austin Drage
    wow you're an idiot

    im one of naseem hamed's biggest fans you ****ing spanner. been following his career since it started from the very beginning.

    stop being such a nuthugger. HAMED TURNED DOWN MARQUEZ AND DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT HIM. Im not saying he ducked him...Im saying he was pursuing bigger and better fights. Same with Mayweather.
    jmm was offered a fight , bud.

    jmm turned it down. i think they said they didn't have enough time to get ready or they asked for more money.

    either way jmm turned it down. i'm sure jmm asked for a fight afterwards or even before but he was offered the fight by hamed once and at that time for whatever reason he turned it down.

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    • Heru
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      #92
      Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
      Ur right. He should of faced JMM if he was the mandatory WBO challenger.

      But Naz was all about the glamour and showbiz of boxing. He wanted to boast about titles, not necessarily quality opponents.

      JMM was too risky, but i think if he was a bigger name or a champion Hamed would have fought him.

      I think Hamed could have KO'd JMM.
      He could have, but IMO he wouldn't. Heart is what makes him get up from all the knockdowns against high caliber opposition and it isn't something you get over time. He always had it so even if he got knocked down against Hamed, I see him getting up and continue to put clean counters on the little defense and bad balanced Hamed.
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      JMM wasn't a serious contender during Hamed's pomp, he had his title shot and blew it against Norwood. The Hamed that fought Molina would have beaten JMM easily and probably a featherweight Pac too.

      You know it's a shame the WBA pulled the BS with Sanchez'z belt or Hamed would have had the full set.
      It was from 97 to 99 before the Norwood fight, he took that cuz he got tired of waiting for Naz. Molina? You're talking about fighters that couldn't compete with the younger cruder versions of Marquez and Pac. These are young Hall of Famers we're talking about only fighters on their level. Pac pretty much shutout Barrera a year after he schooled Hamed. Too much speed for Hamed.

      The fact that you say easily makes me question where you're coming from. He should have been undisputed, but he Marquez qould have still gave it to him.

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      • Orion
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        #93
        Have we forgot what kinda chin Marquez has, there is no way in hell hed let Hamed ko him.

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        • Orion
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          #94
          wow this thread has taken a turn toward huge ******ity. In old issues of ring magazine it was stated numerous times Hamed was always claiming ****** **** to get out of a fight with Marquez and Morales, he didnt want anything to do wit hthe top guys, he finally decided to take on Bareera and got ownd so i highly doubt he was calling anyone out after that.

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          • hammerhiem
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            #95
            Originally posted by -X-
            I highly doubt Hamed would ko Marquez, look at Marquez resume, Pacquiao couldnt even do it.
            Look Pac is brilliant but P4P Hamed is one of the hardest single shot punchers to ever get in a ring.

            Not only that but most of teh time the people he was hitting didn't even see the punch that KO'd them.

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            • Leatherface
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              #96
              Marquez maybe prone to knockdowns but it is almost impossible to finish him, i dont think Hamed can do it.

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              • WhoreUs
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                #97
                Originally posted by Orion
                Have we forgot what kinda chin Marquez has, there is no way in hell hed let Hamed ko him.
                marquez doesn't have a great chin.

                he's been hurt and floored numerous times.

                he has great heart and recovery capability so that gets him back in the fight.

                hamed at 126 hit harder than pacquiao at 126.

                i don't know if naseem can land clean on jmm but if he did it wouldn't be good for jmm.

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                • WhoreUs
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Leatherface
                  Marquez maybe prone to knockdowns but it is almost impossible to finish him, i dont think Hamed can do it.
                  i think hamed can finish him with one punch tbh.

                  i just don't think hamed could land a clean punch on jmm.

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                  • Pretty Boy32
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Leatherface
                    So was there ever negotiations to get those two to fight and what happened? Hamed backed out right?
                    Hamed wanted to fight either of them for his whole career.
                    But after the first Barerra-Morales fight that Morales won,
                    everyone believed barerra had beaten him decisively (including myself!)
                    As did hamed and alot of boxing experts,
                    so Naz went for Barerra.......
                    After Barerra beat Naz,
                    Naz was intitled to a rematch as it was in the contract of the fight but he never took it.......
                    I dont know what his excuse was.
                    He fought Manuel Calvo and after the fight explained how he was in negotiations with Morales camp and how the fight was to happen in that year.
                    Hamed never fought again

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                    • them_apples
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                      #100
                      Marquez kills him, Barrera didn't even have a good right hand and he beat him. (a right hand is a key element to dismantling a southpaw) Marquez has an amazing right hand.

                      No question he woops overrated Naz.

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